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coblist-digest: Re: Cob Yoda's cob house: cob sweat/suana

Vernon B. Johnston vajohnston at nas.com
Sat Dec 6 15:30:29 CST 1997 

Will Firstbrook  WCB of BC  WROTE :  <A question I have is regarding the
>>moisture that would be generated in this sauna do you anticipate any problem
>>with the moisture? Or is there a pathway to get rid of it or is this not a
>>problem? 

Will - I do not anticpate any significant challenges with moisture on the inside of the Sweat/Suana.  There was a good discussion about moisture in the
http://www.deatech.com/coblist/coblist-digest.archive/ .  Lots of other good input too.  The volumes and dates were:
 v02.n005        28-Oct-97 19:02    45k  and  v02.n006               05-Nov-97 20:28    39k  

>    Another thing that I recommend is if you are considering your floor to
>be a cob floor, then put the first layer or two in before you start your
>walls.  It was very nice to be able to work on the cob subfloor while I was
>constructing the sweat/suana.  Plus it was curing while I was working on the
>walls.  I will do the same for the home we are building.
>
>[Will Firstbrook  WCB of BC]  
>Great Idea. Did you do your floor like the one described in the Cobbers
>companion? Being a little impatient the thing I wonder about is would I wait
>that long before I start the walls.

Will  -  Yes,  I used the directions in the "Cobbers Companion".  Very easy to understand and full of imformation.  My first introduction to cob floors was at a basic cob building workshop.  My second was visiting Eric Hoel in Salem, Oregon.  He installed a cob floor prior to walling, and I was inspired by its look, feel and practicability.

As far as waiting for the floor to dry:  The dying time depends on how thin your floor "batter" is, and upon the weather.  I did not find I had to wait any significant nail-biting time.  There is ALWAYS something to do and you do not have to wait for a complete cure.  You will be able to walk and work on it in its leather hard state.  Besides, either way you go on the floor, installing before or after the wall, you are going to have to wait for it to dry.  I suspect that the floor will dry much more quickly without walls around it rather than waiting until after the building is up.  You will get much more air flow. Remember though, you still want a temporary roof over your structure.  

Yes - I did put a temporary roof over my building site to keep the rain off my project.  Until I or We (the Cob-like people) find a suitable roofing membrane for a cob dome, then the temporary roof will stay up.  Besides...a benefit gained by having a temporary roof is that we now have a place to gather and wait while the Sweat/Suana is being prepared for its intended use.  

Enjoy Yourself,

Vernon vajohnston at nas.com



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<DIV>Will Firstbrook  WCB of BC  WROTE :  <A question I have 
is regarding the<BR>>>moisture that would be generated in this sauna do 
you anticipate any problem<BR>>>with the moisture? Or is there a pathway 
to get rid of it or is this not a<BR>>>problem?  </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Will - I do not anticpate any significant 
challenges with moisture on the inside of the Sweat/Suana.  There was a 
good discussion about moisture in the</FONT><BR><A 
href="http://www.deatech.com/coblist/coblist-digest.archive/">http://www.deatech.com/coblist/coblist-digest.archive/</A> 
.  Lots of other good input too.  The volumes and dates were:<BR><IMG 
alt="[   ]" src="cid:000301bd028e$2cd65ee0$0100007f at localhost"> <A 
href="v02.n005">v02.n005</A>        28-Oct-97 
19:02    45k  and <IMG alt="[   ]" 
src="cid:000301bd028e$2cd65ee0$0100007f at localhost"> <A 
href="v02.n006">v02.n006</A>               
05-Nov-97 20:28    39k  </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>    Another thing that I recommend is if you are 
considering your floor to<BR>>be a cob floor, then put the first layer or two 
in before you start your<BR>>walls.  It was very nice to be able to work 
on the cob subfloor while I was<BR>>constructing the sweat/suana.  Plus 
it was curing while I was working on the<BR>>walls.  I will do the same 
for the home we are building.<BR>><BR>>[Will Firstbrook  WCB of 
BC]  <BR>>Great Idea. Did you do your floor like the one described in 
the Cobbers<BR>>companion? Being a little impatient the thing I wonder about 
is would I wait<BR>>that long before I start the walls. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Will  -  Yes,  I used the directions in the "Cobbers 
Companion".  Very easy to understand and full of imformation.  My 
first introduction to cob floors was at a basic cob building workshop.  My 
second was visiting Eric Hoel in Salem, Oregon.  He installed a cob floor 
prior to walling, and I was inspired by its look, feel and 
practicability. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As far as waiting for the floor to dry:  The dying time depends on how 
thin your floor "batter" is, and upon the weather.  I did not 
find I had to wait any significant nail-biting time.  There is ALWAYS 
something to do and you do not have to wait for a complete cure.  You will 
be able to walk and work on it in its leather hard state.  Besides, either 
way you go on the floor, installing before or after the wall, you are going to 
have to wait for it to dry.  I suspect that the floor will dry much more 
quickly without walls around it rather than waiting until after the building is 
up.  You will get much more air flow. Remember though, you still want a 
temporary roof over your structure.  </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Yes - I did put a temporary roof over my building site to keep the rain off 
my project.  Until I or We (the Cob-like people) find a suitable roofing 
membrane for a cob dome, then the temporary roof will stay up.  Besides...a 
benefit gained by having a temporary roof is that we now have a place to gather 
and wait while the Sweat/Suana is being prepared for its intended use.  
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Enjoy Yourself,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Vernon <A href="mailto:vajohnston at nas.com">vajohnston at nas.com</A></DIV>
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