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Cob Re: PlasteringM J Epko duckchow at ix.netcom.comSat Dec 20 10:30:57 CST 1997
At 09:18 AM 12/20/97 +0000, Patrick Newberry wrote: >I've heard cactus juice boiled and added to the final coat works >well.I have a source near here and will attempt to use that method. >That requires some boiling of the cactuses but I think you only need to >deal with it on the final coat. Pat and all, here's a bit of discussion on that which I had no part of & is thus not suspect. :) >From: absteen at gateway.dakotacom.net >Subject: Re: Mission: Cactus Juice > >The gel from the prickly pear cactus was used in conjunction with lime >plaster at the San Xavier del Bac mission. It has a long history of use in >combination with lime in Mexico and possibly other parts of the world. >Basically, the cactus gel is high in pectin and acts like a glue. It helps >the lime set more quickly and improves water repellency. In our opinion it >markedly improves the characteristics lime plaster. Traditionally this >plaster was used over both earthen (adobe) and brick walls. When using it >in conjunction with straw bale walls, we apply 1 to 2 coats of earthen >plaster to the straw bales before the lime. When something more weather >resistant than earth plaster is required, it is an excellent solution. The >species of prickly pear we most often use is called opuntia ficus indica >and is relatively spineless and very easy to work with. There can be a >large degree of difference in pectin content between different prickly >pear, some with very low amounts. This particular variety has a >sufficiently high level. Cholla cactus is also used and in some cases >species, the pectin content can be higher than prickly pear. Aloe Vera is >another option, but typically it is less in its glue-like characteristics. > >The same gels have been used with earthen plasters as well. We always use >it in conjunction with exterior earthen plasters as it improves them >greatly when it comes to water resistance. In a series of tests conducted >by the Catholic University of Peru in Lima, earthen plaster stabilized with >prickly pear gel performed equivalent to earthen plasters stabilized with >4% (by weight) liquid asphalt. The prickly pear stabilized earthen >plaster showed only light damage when subjected to 20 cycles of simulated >rain, each 3 hours long. Our experience concurs. > >The question, as is the case with many natural plant products, remains how >to prepare this substance for use in plasters. I didn't see the piece on >the mission, but if they were preparing it as they have in the past, they >could have been boiling it and then squeezing it with a mop press to >extract the gel. I don't know if they have made any changes in that >process. In contrast, it is commonly prepared by chopping the pads of the >cactus into small pieces and soaking them in water for 1 to 2 weeks, >depending upon the climate. That gel is then diluted with water, 1 to 4 >and then used as the water to mix the plaster. You should be warned that >it will smell horrendous after this period, but it is considered by many to >be a much superior product than the substance that has been just boiled as >it has become a more complex compound during this aging process. > >For a more complete description, refer to pages 209-210 in our book, The >Straw Bale House... If you have any further questions please let us know. > >Best wishes, >Bill Steen > >>hollen at vigra.com writes: >>>There was an episode of "This Old House" not too long ago (at least >>>here in SoCal) that Steve Thomas visited a mission in the process of >>>being restored. In the past, some restoration had been done using >>>cement stucco and its impermeability had caused the moisture in the >>>building to be trapped in the wall and even eventually migrate back >>>towards the interior and begin to destroy some of the frescoes on the >>>interior walls. >> >>It was also destroying the integrity of the Adobe walls themselves. >> >>>The current restoration was being done with stucco materials using >>>prickly pear cactus mucilage and ?????? >> >>>It was pointed out that the "old world stucco recipes" far outlasted >>>modern cement stucco and were breathable. >> >>I believe this was Mission San Xavier Del Baq (sp?). Can't remember if it's >>New Mexico or Arizona, but I'm sure someone else on this list will know. It >>was also written up in Progressive Architecture (now defunct, but back issues >>probably available at your university architecture library) some time between >>'89 and '94 (sorry, I did a quick look and didn't find it. And I'm not going >>to dig through 6 years of PA right now.) >> >>The problem was this: The original natural earth stucco that was used >>breathed. The stucco would allow some moisture into the walls. Not a big >>deal, as rainstorms in the SW desert don't last long, aren't frequent, and >>there's plenty of time between them for the walls to dry back out on their >>own. >> >>The problem came when non-breathable stucco (cement early in this century, >>and later even elastomerics if I remember correctly) was applied as repair to >>some areas that needed maintenance. Now, we all know that no matter how hard >>we try to "seal" something, eventually it will crack, puncture, or otherwise >>leak in some way - even "invisible" hairline cracks count. This of course >>happened at the Mission, and water got back into the walls again. Of course, >>it is now sealed IN by the lovely non-breathable surface, and the walls can >>no longer dry out properly. So the walls start to degrade MORE quickly than >>before the "repair". >> >>The smart people who were restoring the place in the 80s or so figured this >>out, went to Mexico, and got some artisans who still used the old techniques. >>They add squeezings from boiled prickly pear cactus to the stucco as a sort of >>breathing water barrier, then finished the stucco by rubbing it with smooth >>river stones to reduce the size of the pores. >>-- >> >>Bill Christensen >>billc at greenbuilder.com >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Sustainable Sources - Internet Solutions with an Environmental Perspective >> info at greenbuilder.com BBS 512.462.0633 >> Telnet://fc.greenbuilder.com:3000 >> WWW http://www.greenbuilder.com/ > >.~""~.,.~""~.,.~""~.,.~""~.,.~""~.,.~""~.,.~""~.,.~""~.,.~""~.,.~""~.,.~""~ .,. > >The Canelo Project >HC1 Box 324 >Elgin, AZ 85611 >520 455 5548 phone >520 455 9360 fax ><absteen at dakotacom.net> e-mail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M J Epko duckchow at ix.netcom.com almost Wyoming, north of Nebraska, USA by way of New Mexico (not soon enough) - for now, Minnesota ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You may drive out Nature with a pitchfork, yet she will always hurry back. - Horace, Epistles
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