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Cob Farmer's Bulletin #1500 on Weatherproofing EarthPaul & Mary Salas chansey at earthlink.netWed Mar 3 07:02:26 CST 1999
It's understandable that some readers on the various lists are perhaps new and have not followed threads of previous discussions for the past few years and it's easier to attack the messenger rather than listen to the message, such as when, kimelia wrote: Old does not always mean better! Note the date on this bulletin. Some of these ingredients are bad for the environment, poisonous and carcinogens. Not really what you'd want in an "envorinmentally friendly" structure. The message header contained, "We could use some input from our resident lime expert, Harry, on their uses and perhaps modifications if it is necessary--good luck and if anyone uses the materials noted, let us know how they worked out. " Let's examine the compounds used collectively in all of the recipes and see what is "unsustainable" or "unhealthy" and what a more "open minded" person could conclude from a thorough review by reasoning in a sustainable way. Sometimes taking a step back can lead us to a better path in the future. casesin (lactic)-is produced by acidifying good quality skimmed milk which causes the casein to precipitate trisodium phosphate--notes indicate borax substiute. Purpose is a water soluble glass of Sodium Phosphate which is also known as Graham's Salt. Sodium Hexameta Phosphate has a property of "SEQUESTRATION" due to which it forms soluble complex ions with salts of Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc, Iron, etc., thus preventing deposition of their insoluble salts (very desirable in a weatherproofing application) hydrated lime-see previous discussions quick lime-see previous discussions formaldehyde-*see soybean substitute by the GB list-this material does have adverse affects on humans table salt-sodium, natural mineral; unknown if harmful rock salt-sodium, natural mineral; unknown if harmful zinc sulfate-naturally occuring, used as food additive, mineral supplement; used in galvanizing metal ground rice-common food, unknown if harmful portland cement-see previous discussion Spanish whiting-ordinary food fish found in the Atlantic Ocean (fresh not recommended immediate application; use in powdered form for whitewash) white glue-made from animal bones or fish (scotch glue); traditional glue of furniture makers molasses-common food, unknown if harmful alum-used in food canning as a crisping agent; pickles for example flour paste-common food, unknown if harmful Whitewash Option Whitewash is made of one-half bushel of unslaked lime with boiling water, a peck of salt, one-half pound of powdered Spanish whiting (fish), three pounds of ground rice put in boiling water, and a pound of glue. Used on Altlantic sea coast light houses. (Must have worked--they're still in use.) Substitue for formaldehyde http://metalab.unc.edu/london/renewable-energy/mailarchives/greenbuilding2/msg00277.html see full text To: greenbuilding at crest.org Subject: GBlist: PF resins From: Michelle Carstensen <michelle at mtn.org> Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 12:01:35 +0000 Organization: ILSR Sender: owner-greenbuilding at crest.org Paul Salas SANCO Enterprises Albuq. NM -------------- next part -------------- <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <font size=-1>It's understandable that some readers on the various lists are perhaps new and have not followed threads of previous discussions for the past few years and it's easier to attack the messenger rather than listen to the message, such as when,</font> <p><i><font size=-1>kimelia wrote:</font></i> <br><i><font face=""><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Old does not always mean better! Note the date on this bulletin. Some of these ingredients are bad for the environment, poisonous and carcinogens. Not really what you'd want in an "envorinmentally friendly" structure.</font></font></font></i> <p><font size=-1>The message header contained,<b> "We could use some input from our resident lime expert, Harry, on their uses and perhaps modifications if it is necessary--good luck and if anyone uses the materials noted, let us know how they worked out. "</b></font> <p><font size=-1>Let's examine the compounds used collectively in all of the recipes and see what is "unsustainable" or "unhealthy" and what a more "open minded" person could conclude from a thorough review by reasoning in a sustainable way. Sometimes taking a step back can lead us to a better path in the future.</font> <dl><font size=-1><b>casesin (lactic)</b>-is produced by acidifying good quality skimmed milk which causes the casein to precipitate</font> <br><font size=-1><b>trisodium phosphate</b>--notes indicate borax substiute. Purpose is a water soluble glass of Sodium Phosphate which is also known as Graham's Salt. Sodium Hexameta Phosphate has a property of "SEQUESTRATION" due to which it forms soluble complex ions with salts of Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc, Iron, etc., thus preventing deposition of their insoluble salts (very desirable in a weatherproofing application)</font> <br><font size=-1><b>hydrated lime-</b>see previous discussions</font> <br><font size=-1><b>quick lime-</b>see previous discussions</font> <br><font size=-1><b>formaldehyde-*</b>see soybean substitute by the GB list-this material does have adverse affects on humans</font> <br><font size=-1><b>table salt-</b>sodium, natural mineral; unknown if harmful</font> <br><font size=-1><b>rock salt-</b>sodium, natural mineral; unknown if harmful</font> <br><font size=-1><b>zinc sulfate</b>-naturally occuring, used as food additive, mineral supplement; used in galvanizing metal</font> <br><font size=-1><b>ground rice</b>-common food, unknown if harmful</font> <br><font size=-1><b>portland cement</b>-see previous discussion</font> <br><font size=-1><b>Spanish whiting</b>-ordinary food fish found in the Atlantic Ocean (fresh not recommended immediate application; use in powdered form for whitewash)</font> <br><font size=-1><b>white glue</b>-made from animal bones or fish (scotch glue); traditional glue of furniture makers</font> <br><font size=-1><b>molasses</b>-common food, unknown if harmful</font> <br><font size=-1><b>alum</b>-used in food canning as a crisping agent; pickles for example</font> <br><font size=-1><b>flour paste</b>-common food, unknown if harmful</font><font size=-1></font> <p><b><font size=-1>Whitewash Option</font></b> <br><font size=-1>Whitewash is made of one-half bushel of unslaked lime with boiling water, a peck of salt, one-half pound of powdered Spanish whiting (fish), three pounds of ground rice put in boiling water, and a pound of glue. Used on Altlantic sea coast light houses. (Must have worked--they're still in use.)</font></dl> <b><font size=-1>Substitue for formaldehyde</font></b> <br><font size=-1><A HREF="http://metalab.unc.edu/london/renewable-energy/mailarchives/greenbuilding2/msg00277.html">http://metalab.unc.edu/london/renewable-energy/mailarchives/greenbuilding2/msg00277.html</A></font> <br><b><font size=-1>see full text</font></b> <br><font size=-1> To: greenbuilding at crest.org</font> <br><font size=-1> Subject: GBlist: PF resins</font> <br><font size=-1> From: Michelle Carstensen <michelle at mtn.org></font> <br><font size=-1> Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 12:01:35 +0000</font> <br><font size=-1> Organization: ILSR</font> <br><font size=-1> Sender: owner-greenbuilding at crest.org</font><font size=-1></font> <p><font size=-1>Paul Salas</font> <br><font size=-1>SANCO Enterprises</font> <br><font size=-1>Albuq. NM</font> </body> </html>
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