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Cob: concrete is forever?DoNegard at aol.com DoNegard at aol.comWed Jul 21 09:09:26 CDT 1999
Eric Straatsma << I have heard it said by at least one post, that concrete is a forever material. I am here to give the opposing viewpoint. Concrete does decay and degrade depending on many factors that cannot be controlled 100%.>> I would like to know the source of your information, and the source of the information of the "concrete is forever" viewpoint. I am going to be using some of the information I get here to build my dream house, and I have to have substantiated facts and knowledge before I begin. Nothing less will satisfy me. << For example, lets assume that concrete is like a rock.>> Is there a way that you could come up with this information withoug making any assumptions? Whenever I make assumptions, I believe I am taking quite a risk, sometimes with my personal safety, sometimes with my knowledge. << Rocks absorb moisture and concrete does too. As this moisture freezes and thaws, inside of concrete pores, it breaks up the concrete from inside, expanding cracks and breaking off small pieces. All rocks go through the same process. Nature makes sand out of rocks eventually.>> Are these statements supported by the actual testing of concrete? << Second, rocks are subject to heating and cooling stresses, that break up rocks also. If concrete is heated to 130 during the day and then cooled to 50 degrees at night, it contracts and expands, which causes cracking and eventually destruction. It takes a long time, but it happens in rocks too.>> Perhaps only the surfaces of the concrete go through the daily temperature swings. Could it be that concrete has enough elasticity to allow for these daily temperature extremes without causing damage to the concrete? I don't know, but would like to know. << Third, concrete is subject to chemical weathering, in acid soils especially or in acid rain areas, just as rocks are.>> In my old area (Minneapolis, MN) it appears to me - from what I read in the paper, and what it looks like to me personally - that the main attacker of concrete (besides wear from traffic) is the salt used to melt ice and snow in the winter. Don in Hot Springs, SD
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