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Cob: Re: Re: a question about renders...

John Hall hallsoi at netvigator.com
Mon Jul 30 05:44:10 CDT 2001


Mike,
What is the purpose of the "pozzolan" and how does it work in protecting the render from frost?
I am wanting to re-render a 15th century cob building in Mid-Devon, so this redering topic is particularly pertinent.
The original render would have keyed with the straw sticking out of the fresh cob, but after stripping the original render, there may be not much for a new lime render to attach to.  How do you ensure it sticks on?!
Regards,
John Hall.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Wye 
  To: Mike Boerema & Margo Kellett ; coblist at deatech.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 1:12 AM
  Subject: Cob: Re: a question about renders...


  Inger Boerema wrote;
  > I am aware that cement renders should not be used on earth constructions, so I have been looking at different alternatives that
  > (preferably) do not require constant maintenance. I originally thought that I would use a lime based render, but have been told by some > that it is unsuitable for out door and unprotected walls, and by others that it is achievable. I am writing to you on the hope that you may > have some suggestions in regards to a suitable render, for as I am running out of time, I am anxious to find something that will sufficiently > protect my wall! 

  1. Nearly all the cob buildings in South West England that were rendered had lime mortar applied. If the site is exposed and render can freeze in winter, add a little pozzolan to your lime mortar ( in the old days this was volcanic ash or brick dust or earth containing burnt clays - these days you can get a purpose made burnt clay in most countries) Mix 3 parts coarse sharp sand with lime putty, leave for a week if you have the time and patience and then when using remix adding 10 -15% by volume of a pozzolan. You can harl the first coat if your cob is too smooth for a key but otherwise trowel it on.
  2. If you're worried about maintenance you can self colour your top coat of lime render with earth pigments -you'll get a shading effect with the change of moisture content in the wall.
  3. Or you can use a limewash coloured with an earth pigment - limewash is relatively cheap and long lasting if applied correctly.
  4. If your environment is mild and frost free you could leave the cob bare - if the walls are thick ( over 2 feet 6 inches/750mm) its unlikely that severe rain will penetrate. We have many bare cob structures in our relatively wet part of the world and the rate of erosion is very slow. If you're worried about the alkalinity of lime and hence the safety issues if you want the children to be involved/ have access you can use an earth render if you have a reasonable clay content in your subsoil - sieve the dry soil and add chopped straw and water when remixing to a soft consistency. 
  Your cob wall needs good protection for the top of the wall to prevent rain penetrating its centre and the cob wall should have been raised off the ground by building on a stone plinth ideally 3 feet/900mm - this will reduce the risk of rising dampness.
  hope this helps
  Mike

  Mike Wye & Associates,
  Traditional & Ecological Building Products
  www.mikewye.co.uk
  01409-281644

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What is the purpose of the "pozzolan" and how does 
it work in protecting the render from frost?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am wanting to re-render a 15th century cob 
building in Mid-Devon, so this redering topic is particularly 
pertinent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The original render would have keyed with the straw 
sticking out of the fresh cob, but after stripping the original render, there 
may be not much for a new lime render to attach to.  How do you ensure it 
sticks on?!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John Hall.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=mike at mikewye.co.uk href="mailto:mike at mikewye.co.uk">Mike Wye</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mboerema at bigpond.com 
  href="mailto:mboerema at bigpond.com">Mike Boerema & Margo Kellett</A> ; <A 
  title=coblist at deatech.com 
  href="mailto:coblist at deatech.com">coblist at deatech.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 29, 2001 1:12 AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Cob: Re: a question about 
  renders...</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Inger Boerema wrote;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>> I am aware that cement renders should not be used on earth 
  constructions, so I have been looking at different alternatives that</DIV>
  <DIV>> (preferably) do not require <I>constant</I> maintenance. I 
  originally thought that I would use a lime based render, but have been told by 
  some > that it is unsuitable for out door and unprotected walls, and by 
  others that it is achievable. I am writing to you on the hope that you may 
  > have some suggestions in regards to a suitable render, for as I am 
  running out of time, I am anxious to find something that will sufficiently 
  > protect my wall! </DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. Nearly all the cob buildings in South West 
  England that were rendered had lime mortar applied. If the site is 
  exposed and render can freeze in winter, add a little pozzolan to your 
  lime mortar ( in the old days this was volcanic ash or brick dust or earth 
  containing burnt clays - these days you can get a purpose made burnt clay in 
  most countries) Mix 3 parts coarse sharp sand with lime putty, leave for a 
  week if you have the time and patience and then when using remix adding 10 
  -15% by volume of a pozzolan. You can harl the first coat if your cob is too 
  smooth for a key but otherwise trowel it on.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. If you're worried about maintenance you can 
  self colour your top coat of lime render with earth pigments -you'll get a 
  shading effect with the change of moisture content in the wall.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. Or you can use a limewash coloured with an 
  earth pigment - limewash is relatively cheap and long lasting if applied 
  correctly.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4. If your environment is mild and frost free you 
  could leave the cob bare - if the walls are thick ( over 2 feet 6 
  inches/750mm) its unlikely that severe rain will penetrate. We have many bare 
  cob structures in our relatively wet part of the world and the rate of erosion 
  is very slow. If you're worried about the alkalinity of lime and hence the 
  safety issues if you want the children to be involved/ have access you can use 
  an earth render if you have a reasonable clay content in your subsoil - sieve 
  the dry soil and add chopped straw and water when remixing to a soft 
  consistency. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your cob wall needs good protection for the 
  top of the wall to prevent rain penetrating its centre and the cob wall 
  should have been raised off the ground by building on a stone plinth ideally 3 
  feet/900mm - this will reduce the risk of rising dampness.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hope this helps</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV>Mike Wye & Associates,<BR>Traditional & Ecological Building 
  Products<BR><A 
  href="http://www.mikewye.co.uk">www.mikewye.co.uk</A><BR>01409-281644<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>