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Cob: Formal ProposalPack McKibben gakayaker at yahoo.comFri Oct 26 11:19:26 CDT 2001
Pack McKibben Northeast Georgia Subject: Proposal I need help putting together a Formal Proposal for design and construction of six Natural Built shelters to be used by campers in a Campground setting. One Cob, Cordwood, Strawbale, Wattle & Daub, Clay Slip, and Papercrete Shelter. Each to be approximately 10 x 10 x 8 in size, with roof, one door, and three windows. The proposal will also include labor and materials. My Background: Ive become interested in alternative building within the last year and a half. Ive taken one workshop with Cob Cottage Company on basic cob construction. I plan on taking a cordwood construction workshop in the spring. Ive been reading and doing research on the internet about sustainable living, passive solar design and other green/natural building techniques that include cob, cordwood, clay slip, wattle and daub, Papercrete, and earthship design. Id call myself a neophyte. All book learning and not much hands on experience. All this interest and research because Ive had a vision of finding land and building a natural built home. Im still looking for the land. If and when I do find land, I figured I could build small shelters as a way to learn the craft, experiment with different techniques, and then, MAYBE: 1). Be able to rent them out as a way to make a living, or 2). Have a place for natural build workshops, and/or 3). Be able to build a Campground/Natural Build/Education Center Heres my Problem: After looking and pricing land I realized I have the budget for a few acres but the project requires a lot more. Zoning is also a problem, but I wont go there right now. So I went to plan B. Which is finding someone to let me use their property to build my natural built shelters (thanks for the idea Ianto). To try to make a long story short, I came across a Director of a local State Park who told me about their pending expansion of their campground. From six to over three hundred acres! I told him about my idea of a community campground sustainable living concept and he REALY liked the idea! So much so that he wants me to give him a formal proposal. It needs to include the type of shelter to be constructed, how long each would take to be constructed, and an estimated cost of materials. I presume all this so he can figure a cost/payback ratio. Im WAY over my head in this situation. Ive NEVER done a proposal. I feel I can handle the community campground portion of the proposal. I need help with the shelter construction details (labor and materials). Solution: I need a BUNCH of help! I do have passion and desire. And Ive learned over the years that as long as you have an open mind and a clear, focused goal, anything is possible! So heres what I need (and I need it as soon as possible) from all those who can help: PROPOSALS: If anyone has done a proposal for a grant. This type proposal would probably fit my need. I know some people have been building at schools as a project for students to learn Natural building (etc.). If a proposal was required, I sure would like to see one. LABOR: An idea of how long it takes to build a shelter of Cob, Cordwood, Strawbale, Papercrete, ETC. should be based on how long it takes two workers To build a 10x 10 x 8 shelter, with roof, one door and three windows. MATERIALS: Total materials list: Timber, Lumber, infill, tonnage, volume, etc. Everything it takes to build a Cob, Cordwood, etc. shelter/building based on the same labor benchmarked building requirements. TOTAL COST: I hope each shelter can be built for lass than $ 500.00 for total labor and matericals. What do you think? Can this be done? Is this realistic? SPECIFICATIONS: Drawings of shelters/buildings, Views: Front, Side, Top; measurements, details. I realize this info may be few and far between. PICTURES: of any small shelters/buildings youve built. Cob, Cordwood, Strawbale, Papercrete, Wattle & Daub, Clay Slip, ETC. Any I use as examples for my proposal will be credited to the sender and/or builder. FORGOT: Things Ive left out! If I leave it out its because I dont know it. So tell me if theres more I need to include. GROUP: Anyone who knows how to help me set up a discussion group for this specific proposal. I dont want to over tax on-going post that are more subject oriented. My plan is to post this ONE message on each Cob, Cordwood, Strawbale, and Papercrete (and any/others you think might be appropriate) Group/List and ask for anyone interested in helping, to use direct email to me, or to use the NEW proposal group for future post (if I figure out how to set one up). ******* Ill provide a URL to the group (in the near future) so any interested persons, contributing parties, and/or individuals who want to learn about Natural Building, can read the in-progress proposal ******* Thanks for any help I hope everyones help will not go for naught ===== Pack McKibben gakayaker at yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com
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