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Cob: cob/ thermalMass

Darel Henman henman at it.to-be.co.jp
Sun Jan 20 20:44:45 CST 2002


If the following message has a hidden useful meaning, would you mind
telling me?

It's very hard for me to read what appears to be nonsense or a
mid-consevation squirt.

Darel

Bill&Julie wrote:
> 
> *smiles* Everyone and especially Ocean,,, Again Smiles,,,
> 
> Where I was trying to go with that brain fart, was to try to get
> a grip on the theoretical Null point. That would be the one of,
> no man made (or conveyed) energy in and no man made
> polution out.
> 
> I'll be brave, and say that if Love is the proper word,
> I Love Cob Too. Not only the freedom of design, but the
> freedom from BIG BROTHER's money machine.
> 
> (I have a very shiny Philosophical, I wax it all the time.)
> 
> A very good reason that anyone would search for the magic
> NULL point. Is, although cutting wood may be enjoyable
> when we're young, at 70 or 80 the joy may pass.
> This would also include the cost of energy, now verses later.
> 
> All concepts are good to think about, if for no other reason,
> to deside not to use them. As for me I will USE COB. But
> I will try Remember the Null Point, and aim for it.
> And no doubt miss...  But as you say, and I agree, the
> very use of Cob remembers the Energy Null Point.
> ( to some degree )
> 
> Remember: The energy that is put into a smile,
> warms the Heart, and the energy that is put into
> a frown, chills the soul.
> 
> *smiles*   bill   *closes the door quietly, and runs for
> the car, trips over the bee hive,,, again,,,,*
> 
> ps, the food looks great....
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ocean" <ahimsaocean at yahoo.com>
> To: "Bill&Julie" <wbates at mn.rr.com>
> Cc: <coblist at deatech.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Cob: cob/ thermalMass
> 
> > Cob houses are comfy, if occupied and heated daily throughout the
> > winter.  Every day a cob house is heated the cob absorbs some heat,
> > bringing the "average" heat  of the "thermal mass" closer to the
> > desired temperature (70 degrees? seems a little warm for me!).
> >
> > Even if the walls (aka "thermal mass") of the cob only get 50-60
> > degrees, the space in the cob is much easier to heat with a Rumford
> > hearth or rocket stove than say, a yurt tent pitched in a 20 degree
> > winter climate.
> >
> > Now, your argument must leaning towards building with strawbales, since
> > they have an insulative quality of R50 or so.  But if you want
> > insulation, please try subscribing to the strawbale listserv.  We here
> > on the coblist LOVE COB!
> >
> > Cob houses are cozy and comfy, even in the winter.  This may be due to
> > the "thermal mass" of cob houses, which is why they tend to be likened
> > to caves--easy to heat in the winter, cool in the summer.  There was a
> > reason our distant ancestors like cave-dwelling!
> >
> > Whatever the case, please spend some time in a cob house, especially
> > during the winter, before theorizing about whether they need
> > "insulation" or whether "thermal mass" is indeed enough to make the
> > space cozy.
> >
> > As for me, "I love my cob!"  Hey, that might be a cool bumper sticker.
> > Any takers?
> >
> > Ocean