Cob: Fw: Cob Bench

Sun Sep 29 14:52:08 PDT 2002

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From: Myra Bonhage-Hale=20
To: dealy at deatech.com=20
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:48 PM
Subject: Cob Bench

Hi, we worked more on the cob bench today in preparation for the =
workshop next weekend.  .....   the rocks placed without mortar are =
about10 inches high.  We think the cob will be another 10 inches - mixed =
some cob - some with l/4 sand, some with 3/8 sand - found l/4 sand =
better consistency.  Put in half of first row. =20
A couple questions:
1)  as stones are irregular in their projection  from two front sides, =
do you need to have cob exactly even with stone projection?  - would =
stone which is beyond the cob and beneath it let water splash up on it =
and   mess up the cob?

2)  Do I need to put cover of some kind over cob we put on top of rocks =
for bench?  If so how far off t he ground so that drying is feasible?

2a)  I plan to put a roof over the bench this week using 4 6 x 6 oak =
posts - 8 feet high at front, and 7 feet high at back (bench faces =
south).  Also plan to use old steel roofing in goat shed for roof with 4 =
x 6 slats - to hold steel up.  I would like to make an earth roof with =
plants (preferably herbs) growing on top - where and what can I use over =
the steel to put soil on???
3)  We went up into my woods where I knew an old stone wall was present =
(the people who lived here before were German stone cutters and =
builders).....and my sidewalks, front steps and tops of the chimneys are =
hand cut stone)..... there is an old edifice of stone wall up quite a =
bit away from the house site (up a hill with an old timber road about 45 =
degrees) The stone wall is 30 feet long, 7 to 3 feet high and 6 feet  =
wide built of stone (dry wall).  We thought we could use that for the =
foundation above the apprentice housing.  We would probably have enough =
for 2 apprentice houses.  The stones are moss covered.  But getting them =
down to the site is a probem:  There are some ways we have thought of:
1)  With a 4 wheeler and a very reliable safe driver with a trailer =
bring them down.
2)  Build some sort of a skid to roll the rocks down./
3)  And the most energy intensive:  take them down with a wheelbarrow.=20
4)  Get a really macho guy with a really macho 4 wheel drive truck and =
dare him!!!=20

Any ideas.?

My other problem is with the trench for the rubble:  For the Apprentice =
Housing

1)  Where do you get the rubble - and how?  I have nearby creeks with =
gravel but replete with other stuff --- can I buy it - how clean does it =
have to be?

2)  Again with the trench:  how many perforated or other pipes do you =
put down there and how do you know which they are (electrical, waste, =
water) ?

I really look at all of the questions on this list - I learn daily from =
all the good advice and questions... Thanks.  Namaste.  Myra
Visit me on the web at www.lapaixherbaljourney.com
and www.sustainabledevelopmentforwv.com

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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:48 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Cob Bench</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi, we worked more on the cob bench today in preparation for the =
workshop=20
next weekend.&nbsp; .....&nbsp;&nbsp; the rocks placed without mortar =
are=20
about10 inches high.&nbsp; We think the cob will be another 10 inches - =
mixed=20
some cob&nbsp;- some with l/4 sand, some with 3/8 sand - found l/4 sand =
better=20
consistency.&nbsp; Put in half of first row.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>A couple questions:</DIV>
<DIV>1)&nbsp; as stones are irregular in their projection &nbsp;from two =
front=20
sides, do you need to have cob exactly even with stone projection?&nbsp; =
- would=20
stone which is beyond the cob and beneath it let water splash up on it=20
and&nbsp;&nbsp; mess up the cob?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>2)&nbsp; Do I need to put cover of some kind over cob we put on top =
of=20
rocks for bench?&nbsp; If so how far off t he ground so that drying is=20
feasible?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>2a)&nbsp; I plan to put a roof over the bench this week using 4 6 x =
6 oak=20
posts - 8 feet high at front, and 7 feet high at back (bench faces =
south).&nbsp;=20
Also plan to use old steel roofing in goat shed for roof with 4 x 6 =
slats - to=20
hold steel up.&nbsp; I would like to make an earth roof with plants =
(preferably=20
herbs) growing on top - where and what can I use over the steel to put =
soil=20
on???</DIV>
<DIV>3)&nbsp; We went up into my woods where I knew an old stone wall =
was=20
present (the people who lived here before were German stone cutters and=20
builders).....and my sidewalks, front steps and tops of the chimneys are =
hand=20
cut stone)..... there is an old edifice of stone wall up quite a bit =
away from=20
the house site (up a hill with an old timber road about 45 degrees) The =
stone=20
wall is 30 feet long, 7 to 3 feet high and 6 feet&nbsp; wide built of =
stone (dry=20
wall).&nbsp; We thought we could use that for the foundation above the=20
apprentice housing.&nbsp; We would probably have enough for 2 apprentice =

houses.&nbsp; The stones are moss covered.&nbsp; But getting them down =
to the=20
site is a probem:&nbsp; There are some ways we have thought of:</DIV>
<DIV>1)&nbsp; With a 4 wheeler and a very reliable safe driver with a =
trailer=20
bring them down.</DIV>
<DIV>2)&nbsp; Build some sort of a skid to roll the rocks down./</DIV>
<DIV>3)&nbsp; And the most energy intensive:&nbsp; take them down with a =

wheelbarrow.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>4)&nbsp;&nbsp;Get a really macho guy with a really macho 4 wheel =
drive=20
truck and dare him!!!&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Any ideas.?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>My other problem is with the trench for the rubble:&nbsp; For the=20
Apprentice Housing</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>1)&nbsp; Where do you get the rubble - and how?&nbsp; I have nearby =
creeks=20
with gravel but replete with other stuff --- can I buy it - how clean =
does it=20
have to be?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>2)&nbsp; Again with the trench:&nbsp; how many perforated or other =
pipes do=20
you put down there and how do you know which they are (electrical, =
waste, water)=20
?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I really look at all of the questions on this list - I learn daily =
from all=20
the good advice and questions... Thanks.&nbsp; Namaste.&nbsp; Myra</DIV>
<DIV>Visit me on the web at <A=20
href=3D"http://www.lapaixherbaljourney.com">www.lapaixherbaljourney.com</=
A><BR>and=20
<A=20
href=3D"http://www.sustainabledevelopmentforwv.com">www.sustainabledevelo=
pmentforwv.com</A></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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