Cob: Re: where in the US for cob

[Mike Swink]

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Before anyone builds do what I did not do. Go to local city county. Ask =
for map showing areas that considered not suitable for building. Such as =
potential BioSpheres or wetlands or future construction of waterways =
etc. Most of this can be done online.

Wetlands and some  map from UN Bio group shows areas they will preserve =
for the future generations.
Right wingers almost had be convienced planing for the future was wrong. =
But as one of past mentors. America is too young compaired to Germany to =
even know where things are to go. In Ohio when my friend lived in =
Cleveland there was still horse and wagons and blacksmiths pinging in =
the morning early hours. The Biggest news was then a Castle was being =
built to last 1000years.
It only last 30 yrs amost. Because highways and other new things had to =
use the land.

I did find that some of the old farm lands are still the best. ALthough =
after seeing thousands of back to landers come and go in North Georgia I =
must say that you need to be near education and medical schools for =
future needs of your children. Also plant fast growing shrubs like the =
Buford Holly that acts as wind sound break plus offending eyes of nosey =
people ha ha.

If a cob home is just for insurance[From difficult times] and weekend =
escapes. Then I would not care where I built it.

I am real encouraged that the UN did do research and show areas which =
nature alone can use and replinsh what we dummies need.

Solar heat is nice but I still think the best way to heat home is a =
insulated box outside the home which provides water circulation through =
floors but can be operated by Pellets,Electricity,Wood,Oil,Coal, and =
even solar.Stay away from anything that circulates air in home except =
for exchange purposes.=20

OFF TOPIC:

Look up Air Wells /Electro-Osmosis(NOT a Filter) /Solar Cooling=20

Air wells provide a  way to extract water from the air w/o electiricty.

"The collection of atmospheric humidity is an ancient technology that =
has been largely ignored in modern times. The most impressive example of =
this science was discovered in 1900-03 during the excavation of =
Theodosia (a Byzantine city dating to about 500 BC). Archaeologists =
found numerous pipes, about 3 inches in diameter, leading to wells and =
fountains in the city. The pipes were traced to a nearby hill, and were =
found to originate from 13 piles of limestone, each about 40 feet tall =
and 100 feet square. This system of air wells produced as much as 14,000 =
gallons of water daily!"
 Air Wells & Dew Ponds Robert A. Nelson From www.rexresearch.com

And the same no energy inventions like Electro Osmosis which helps =
direct water towards or away from where ever it is. 2 volts dc is =
possible with two electrodes that are diffrent in metal to create this =
voltage from earth alone. Commercial units that use E/O use diffrent =
settings from 2 to 12volts dc very low current needs. It was invented in =
early 1880's when a person noticed effects of low voltage to extract =
water from clay. Then now it is used to dry concrete to set up faster. =
And one shcool which every year or so would have 2ft of water to enter =
thier buildings basements. Now with small E/0 unit it keeps it dry. =
Goverment uses it in underground sites. But could work very well with =
Air Wells.

Lehmans.com has a great article on solar refridgerator. The 90deg F, is =
all that is required to operate cooling system. Imagine a unit in the =
trunk of a car which heats up faster than passenger compartment of car. =
THen coils that are in the passenger side draws the heat from a parked =
car all done with out electcity. Would save a few kids from death and =
few grandparents from prison time. [If anyone cares.]

Or it could keep the tempature diffrental from becomeing the same temp =
in air wells which the French built that worked ONLY ONE Day then it was =
declared everyone had to buy water from city to collect taxes for the =
goverment. I expect it might be best to put a fan and light on your air =
well to not cause alarm. When the goverment gets out of oil soon after =
common sense might have time to come again to the america people like in =
the begining when children at the age of 13apox built thier frist simple =
dwelling. THis taped into the vast selfish nature and energy of those =
that age and focused this to first learn how to have a goal and shelter =
or a base so if they ventured off to hollywood they would at least have =
a place to return to or the knowledge to build themselves shelter.

Refigerators will not have the heat source vented to weaken door seal =
that allows warm air to enter fridgrator. And that heat from unit would =
be vented out in summer or used to heat water etc. Or to add heat to =
homes in winter.

When common sense returns then we may be a people not so easly =
undermined. My family has a huge farm that has lasted six generations =
due to one thing. NO DEBT. and it Pays for TAXES. Another thing is that =
we should all hope that people will have areas to build summer homes =
which could be rented out or used in times of need like sickness when we =
need no overhead.

Swink soon going to heaven. Go to homopathics while in GOOD health or =
you migth not have any choice but the big gugs like microwaves chemo.




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>Before anyone =
builds do what=20
I did not do. Go to local city county. Ask for map showing areas that =
considered=20
not suitable for building. Such as potential BioSpheres or wetlands or =
future=20
construction of waterways etc. Most of this can be done=20
online.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>Wetlands and =
some&nbsp; map=20
from UN Bio group shows areas they will preserve for the future=20
generations.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>Right wingers =
almost had be=20
convienced planing for the future was wrong. But as one of past mentors. =
America=20
is too young compaired to Germany to even know where things are to go. =
In Ohio=20
when my friend lived in Cleveland there was still horse and wagons and=20
blacksmiths pinging in the morning early hours. The Biggest news was =
then a=20
Castle was being built to last 1000years.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>It only last 30 =
yrs amost.=20
Because highways and other new things had to use the =
land.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>I did find that =
some of the=20
old farm lands are still the best. ALthough after seeing thousands of =
back to=20
landers come and go in North Georgia I must say that you need to be near =

education and medical schools for future needs of your children. Also =
plant fast=20
growing shrubs like the Buford Holly that acts as wind sound break plus=20
offending eyes of nosey people ha ha.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>If a cob home =
is just for=20
insurance[From difficult times] and weekend escapes. Then I would not =
care where=20
I built it.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>I am real =
encouraged that the=20
UN did do research and show areas which nature alone can use and =
replinsh what=20
we dummies need.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Solar heat is =
nice but I=20
still think the best way to heat home is a insulated box outside the =
home which=20
provides water circulation through floors but can be operated by=20
Pellets,Electricity,Wood,Oil,Coal, and even solar.Stay away from =
anything that=20
circulates air in home except for exchange purposes. =
</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>OFF=20
TOPIC:</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>Look up <U>Air =
Wells=20
/Electro-Osmosis(NOT a Filter) /Solar Cooling</U> </STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>Air wells =
provide a &nbsp;way=20
to extract water from the air w/o electiricty.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>"The collection =
of=20
atmospheric humidity is an ancient technology that has been largely =
ignored in=20
modern times. The most impressive example of this science was discovered =
in=20
1900-03 during the excavation of Theodosia (a Byzantine city dating to =
about 500=20
BC). Archaeologists found numerous pipes, about 3 inches in diameter, =
leading to=20
wells and fountains in the city. The pipes were traced to a nearby hill, =
and=20
were found to originate from 13 piles of limestone, each about 40 feet =
tall and=20
100 feet square. This system of air wells produced as much as 14,000 =
gallons of=20
water daily!"<BR>&nbsp;Air Wells &amp; Dew Ponds Robert A. Nelson From=20
</STRONG></FONT><A href=3D"http://www.rexresearch.com/"><STRONG><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>www.rexresearch.com</FONT></STRONG></A></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>And the same no =
energy=20
inventions like Electro Osmosis which helps direct water towards or away =
from=20
where ever it is. 2 volts dc is possible with two electrodes that are =
diffrent=20
in metal to create this voltage from earth alone. Commercial units that =
use E/O=20
use diffrent settings from 2 to 12volts dc very low current needs. It =
was=20
invented in early 1880's when a person noticed effects of low voltage to =
extract=20
water from clay. Then now it is used to dry concrete to set up faster. =
And one=20
shcool which every year or so would have 2ft of water to enter thier =
buildings=20
basements. Now with small E/0 unit it keeps it dry. Goverment uses it in =

underground sites. But could work very well with Air=20
Wells.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>Lehmans.com has =
a great=20
article on solar refridgerator. The 90deg F, is all that is required to =
operate=20
cooling system. Imagine a unit in the trunk of a car which heats up =
faster than=20
passenger compartment of car. THen coils that&nbsp;are in the passenger =
side=20
draws the heat from a parked car all done with out electcity. Would save =
a few=20
kids from death and few grandparents from prison time. [If anyone=20
cares.]</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>Or it could =
keep the=20
tempature diffrental from becomeing the same temp in air wells which the =
French=20
built that worked ONLY ONE Day then it was declared everyone had to buy =
water=20
from city to collect taxes for the goverment. I expect it might be best =
to put a=20
fan and light on your air well to not cause alarm. When the goverment =
gets out=20
of oil soon after common sense might have time to come again to the =
america=20
people like in the begining when children at the age of 13apox built =
thier frist=20
simple dwelling. THis taped into the vast selfish nature and energy of =
those=20
that age and focused this to first learn how to have a goal and shelter =
or a=20
base so if they ventured off to hollywood they would at least have a =
place to=20
return to or the knowledge to build themselves =
shelter.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>Refigerators =
will not have=20
the heat source vented to weaken door seal that allows warm air to enter =

fridgrator. And that heat from unit would be vented out in summer or =
used to=20
heat water etc. Or to add heat to homes in winter.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>When common =
sense returns=20
then we may be a people not so easly undermined. My family has a huge =
farm that=20
has lasted six generations due to one thing. NO DEBT. and it Pays for =
TAXES.=20
Another thing is that we should all hope that people will have areas to =
build=20
summer homes which could be rented out or used in times of need like =
sickness=20
when we need no overhead.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><STRONG>Swink soon =
going to heaven.=20
Go to homopathics while in GOOD health or you migth not have any choice =
but the=20
big gugs like microwaves chemo.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><FONT =
color=3D#000000></FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.rexresearch.com"></A></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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