Cob: Telephone poles

Sat Jan 11 09:21:25 PST 2003

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<P>Hey! Cat here,</P>
<P>Thanks for the info,&nbsp; I had not thought about the treatment of barn timbers!&nbsp; Do you know if the chemicals used have an odor that would be discernable during cutting or sanding?&nbsp; Was this treatment a factory process that penetrated deeply or was it an optional top coat applied on site? What would the aprox cut off date for these materials be?&nbsp; Would a building say 80 years old be a safe candidate for cannibalizing?</P>
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<P>Wood is not the only thing one can get dumped on your building site.&nbsp; I have a request in at the local road department for stone.&nbsp; At times rock breaks away from the hills and gets into the roads.&nbsp; If the road dept. does not have a project to use it on they will deliver free!&nbsp; In WV one must sign a waver&nbsp; with conditions but it's not too complicated.&nbsp; Every few years the dept of highways will clean the ditches.&nbsp; They dumped in a low area on my farm that was very soggy and useless.&nbsp; The earth was rich although lots of #2 gravel in it so one has&nbsp;got to turn it with a tractor not a rototiller.&nbsp; </P>
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<P>For the good of all Cat<BR><BR></P>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: SIRMIKEDUNCAN at aol.com 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: SIRMIKEDUNCAN at aol.com 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: coblist at deatech.com 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Cob: Telephone poles 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:47:19 EST 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Yes, telephone poles in most cases due contain toxic waste as due rail road 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;ties and treated lumber. But don't think that all of those hand hewn timbers 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;in barns are free either. I have been looking over old catalogs used by 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;farmers from the 1950s and before and they were urged to treat barn timbers 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;with a chromatic solution or creosote before using in the barn. Creosote 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;will leach out for years and the exterior wood will look untreated but will 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;still leach minute amounts for many years to come. Whether this is a health 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;hazard or not I cannot say for sure but my feeling is why go through 20 years 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;of exposure and then find out. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Rural timber yards typically sell 4x6 ties pretty reasonably and you can 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;contact tree service companies in town areas that are always looking for a 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;place to dump wood. You should be prepared to move some heavy timbers though 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;but they will last a long time especially if you remove the bark. A 14" 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;diameter timber will take up to 20 years just to completely dry out. 
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