Cob: Re: RE: horse hair

Sat Mar 29 10:53:57 PST 2003

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OOPs ,, I should have read on down before I posted,, sorry,,,  At least =
,,,Joe,, We are on the same page....   ~=BF~   bill
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Joe Skeesick=20
  To: coblist at deatech.com=20
  Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 12:04 PM
  Subject: Cob: RE: horse hair

  Quick comment on the validity of the hair conversation.=20

  =20

  It is most definitely not off topic as a properly constructed cob wall =
must be protected by a plaster render. The best render you can apply is =
a lime plaster. The best lime renders contain hair. Easy as that. let =
the conversation continue (at least if I've got a vote in this.) J

  =20

  As to lurker's question..

  =20

  The function of the hair in the plaster is the same as the straw in =
cob. It works as a reinforcement strand within the plaster helping it to =
hold together when expanding, contracting or otherwise shifting on the =
structure. It's a good thing.=20

  =20

  The only issue I have heard with using human hair is that it is to =
smooth. That animal hair is coarser. It can still be used, its just not =
the best.

  =20

  Joe

  =20

  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]On =
Behalf Of Mary Hooper
  Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:00 PM
  To: coblist at deatech.com
  Subject: Cob: horse hair

  =20

  A lurker here.......

  =20

  Human hair was used as the crosshairs in rifle scopes, according to my =
memories....=20

  I'm late in this discussion....so would someone tell me what function =
the hair served in the plaster?=20

  I use hair in my compost.......I cut my honey's hair so he has =
contributed 10 years worth of it to the piles.... I just spread an 8 =
year pile on my garden and it showed no hairs at all.....=20

  =20

  My question has to do with insects....might hair not attract unwanted =
insects? Or does the lime used in the mix make it unattractive....????=20

  Mary, in NC mtns where winter returns tomorrow=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>OOPs ,, I should have read on down =
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posted,, sorry,,,&nbsp; At least ,,,Joe,, We are on the same=20
page....&nbsp;&nbsp; ~=BF~&nbsp;&nbsp; bill</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Djoe at skeesick.com href=3D"mailto:joe at skeesick.com">Joe =
Skeesick</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  href=3D"mailto:coblist at deatech.com">coblist at deatech.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 29, 2003 =
12:04=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Cob: RE: horse =
hair</DIV>
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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  comment on the validity of the hair conversation&#8230;=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle15><FONT face=3DArial =
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  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">It is=20
  most definitely not off topic as a properly constructed cob wall must =
be=20
  protected by a plaster render. The best render you can apply is a lime =

  plaster. The best lime renders contain hair. Easy as that&#8230; let =
the=20
  conversation continue (at least if I&#8217;ve got a vote in =
this&#8230;)=20
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">The=20
  function of the hair in the plaster is the same as the straw in cob. =
It works=20
  as a reinforcement strand within the plaster helping it to hold =
together when=20
  expanding, contracting or otherwise shifting on the structure. =
It&#8217;s a good=20
  thing. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle15><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
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  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">The=20
  only issue I have heard with using human hair is that it is to smooth. =
That=20
  animal hair is coarser. It can still be used, its just not the=20
  best.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle15><FONT face=3DArial =
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">-----Original=20
  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
  owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]<B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mary =
Hooper<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, March 29, 2003 =
5:00=20
  PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
  coblist at deatech.com<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>=20
  Cob: horse hair</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><![if =
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color=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">A=20
  lurker here.......</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
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windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Human=20
  hair was used as the crosshairs in rifle scopes, according to my =
memories....=20
  </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">I'm=20
  late in this discussion....so would someone tell me what function the =
hair=20
  served in the plaster? </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">I use=20
  hair in my compost.......I cut my honey's hair so he has =
contributed&nbsp;10=20
  years worth of it to the piles.... I just spread an 8 year pile on my =
garden=20
  and it showed no hairs at all..... </SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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New Roman"=20
  color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">My=20
  question has to do with insects....might hair not attract unwanted =
insects? Or=20
  does the lime used in the mix make it unattractive....???? =
</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
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color=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Mary,=20
  in NC mtns where winter returns tomorrow</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
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