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[Cob] Congratulations to TysSusan Hagan su.hagan at hotmail.co.ukThu Nov 3 14:06:51 CDT 2011
Congratulations to TYS. Sweet dreams and a wonderful awakening! Su at Cob in Bulgaria 00359(0)895195318 (Bulgarian Mobile) 00359 6128263 (Bulgarian Landline) With Thanks. Susan Hagan. > From: coblist-request at deatech.com > Subject: Coblist Digest, Vol 9, Issue 128 > To: coblist at deatech.com > Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:00:02 -0700 > > Send Coblist mailing list submissions to > coblist at deatech.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > coblist-request at deatech.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > coblist-owner at deatech.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Coblist digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: greetings from inside (Damon Howell) > 2. Re: Insulative Values of Cob & Strawclay (Frank Hanlan) (Mike) > 3. photos of our Journey (Tys Sniffen) > 4. Re: photos of our Journey (Jill Hogan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:13:35 -0400 > From: Damon Howell <dhowell at pickensprogress.com> > To: coblist at deatech.com > Subject: Re: [Cob] greetings from inside > Message-ID: <8A5461C7-1DA7-469B-8404-912D5E092130 at pickensprogress.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Congrats! I've been keeping up with your progress for the past year > or so, and I would like to say Tys is quite the carpenter! > > Damon Howell > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:26:33 -0400 > From: Mike <aspiringbodhisattva at gmail.com> > To: coblist at deatech.com > Subject: Re: [Cob] Insulative Values of Cob & Strawclay (Frank Hanlan) > Message-ID: > <CAF97oXs89RPZjwjQVNWG77n5xQP7++PLMYXxw1a4MkqMgSTRiQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Frank, > > Having lived in cob and worked with state of the art insulation folks in my > new home, I couldn't agree more. Cob leaches heat like it's its job (which > it is, given it operates as mass). I've seen a number of engineering > articles that suggest the operating R value is around a generous .5/inch, > IF that. In mild climates or where you've got really hot days and cold > nights, cob seems to work decently - but once we hit 40s during the day or > on gray days, that cob cottage was COLD fast, and stayed cold... though > with a wood stove it stayed hot much of the night. But it was NOT > insulated, and that's with a bale north side and 18" walls in "moderate" > NC. > > And currents in framed cells (even with batted) DOES make a difference - > which you can address by spray foaming the joins of the framing to its > sheath. > > Still curious about cob-straw. I'm a month or two away being ready to > cob-straw my framed workshop, and very curious about how it will turn out. > I'll keep you all in the loop. > > mike > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:00 PM, <coblist-request at deatech.com> wrote: > > > Send Coblist mailing list submissions to > > coblist at deatech.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > coblist-request at deatech.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > coblist-owner at deatech.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Coblist digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Insulative Values of Cob & Strawclay (Frank Hanlan) > > 2. greetings from inside (Tys Sniffen) > > 3. Re: greetings from inside (Marilyn Pratt) > > 4. Re: greetings from inside (Jill Hogan) > > 5. Re: greetings from inside (Deborah Terreson) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:47:53 -0700 > > From: Frank Hanlan <fhanlan at hotmail.com> > > To: Coblist <coblist at deatech.com> > > Subject: Re: [Cob] Insulative Values of Cob & Strawclay > > Message-ID: <BAY168-W114FFB5B802524C926333AEADD70 at phx.gbl> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > @ Sky > > > > "Cob can be either, but if you make a tight cob house, it'll outperform a > > batt-insulated house any day." Sorry Sky, I don't agree at all and I > > strongly doubt that any energy efficient builder would either. Energy > > efficient builders are building tight would frame houses with .5 to .9 air > > changes per hour (ach) at 50 pascals which is key together with mass to > > hold heat and moderate temperature swings. In these houses they are > > including whole wall insulation values from R38 to R60, attics from R50 to > > R100, basement walls from R20 to R40 and under slab from R10 to R20. > > Without insulation cob house simply cannot match the performance of these > > houses. > > > > I certainly agree with and support Christopher's & Shannon's concerns > > about R values. I live in Edmonton, AB and in the winter we often get high > > temperatures of 0 degrees F and less with wind chills from -20F to -40F for > > days and even 1 or more weeks at a time. The result is that any exposed > > wall or wall without thermal breaks would get cold and take a large amount > > of heat to warm up and keep warm regardless of the amount of sunshine we > > were getting. Since we are further north we get fewer hours of sunshine > > even on sunny days. > > > > If you are looking to super insulate exterior walls and or roofs for both > > new builds and retrofits I highly recommend Larsen trusses. Martin > > Halladay, the Energy Nerd of www.greenbuildingadvisor.com, recently did a > > great blog post on them. see > > http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/all-about-larsen-trusses > > > > Sincerely yours, > > Frank Hanlan > > > > Edmonton, AB > > > > If you have not demonstrated that you can hear the true state of the world > > and still act then don't expect to be told the truth. > > > > Despite of the agreement in Cancun, Mexico we have still a great amount of > > work to do to ensure that global greenhouse > > emissions have peaked and started down by the end of 2015 and to keep the > > average temperature rise under 2C to stop > > widespread flooding and the displacement of 400 to 500 million people. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:55:06 -0700 > > From: "Tys Sniffen" <tys at ideamountain.com> > > To: <coblist at deatech.com> > > Subject: [Cob] greetings from inside > > Message-ID: <006901cc990a$d438d9c0$7caa8d40$@com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Just had to crow a bit - hello from inside our finished cob house. Only > > took > > 4 years and 8 months, the two of us working full time. outside isn't done, > > or the patio, or the deck, or the tool shed.etc etc. but still, we're > > sleeping inside a clean, finished house tonight! > > > > > > > > Tys > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:02:11 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Marilyn Pratt <marilyn.pratt at sbcglobal.net> > > To: Tys Sniffen <tys at ideamountain.com>, coblist at deatech.com > > Subject: Re: [Cob] greetings from inside > > Message-ID: <1320206531.12658.YahooMailRC at web82202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > TYS!!! That's FABULOUS!!! Congratulations! > > -an excited-for-you Marilyn > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Tys Sniffen <tys at ideamountain.com> > > To: coblist at deatech.com > > Sent: Tue, November 1, 2011 7:55:06 PM > > Subject: [Cob] greetings from inside > > > > Just had to crow a bit - hello from inside our finished cob house. Only > > took > > 4 years and 8 months, the two of us working full time. outside isn't done, > > or the patio, or the deck, or the tool shed.etc etc. but still, we're > > sleeping inside a clean, finished house tonight! > > > > > > > > Tys > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Coblist mailing list > > Coblist at deatech.com > > http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:33:59 +0200 > > From: Jill Hogan <jill.hogan at mat.org.za> > > To: coblist at deatech.com > > Subject: Re: [Cob] greetings from inside > > Message-ID: <4EB11C97.8050006 at mat.org.za> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Congratulations!!!!!!!!! > > One of the happiest nights of my life was the first night I slept in my > > house, and looked up at the ceiling and thought "I did this" It was also > > an amazingly humble moment. > > Enjoy the house every moment and inch of it > > Jill Hogan > > > > On 2011/11/02 04:55 AM, Tys Sniffen wrote: > > > Just had to crow a bit - hello from inside our finished cob house. Only > > took > > > 4 years and 8 months, the two of us working full time. outside isn't > > done, > > > or the patio, or the deck, or the tool shed.etc etc. but still, we're > > > sleeping inside a clean, finished house tonight! > > > > > > > > > > > > Tys > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Coblist mailing list > > > Coblist at deatech.com > > > http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist > > > > > > > > > -- > > *Jill Hogan* > > McGregor Alternative Technology Centre "MAT" > > PO Box 365 > > McGregor > > 6708 > > > > www.mat.org.za <http://www.mat.org.za> > > Phone: 023 625 1533 > > > > Signature > > > > "Be the change you wish to see" Mohandas Ghandi > > > > If you do not wish to receive these mails, email us with unsubscribe in > > the subject. Thanks > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:53:31 -0400 > > From: Deborah Terreson <foodandart at comcast.net> > > To: Tys Sniffen <tys at ideamountain.com> > > Cc: coblist at deatech.com > > Subject: Re: [Cob] greetings from inside > > Message-ID: <7D34FE61-1120-4880-B1AC-5592423D33AB at comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Well, don't be tease.. send pictures of your cobbed glory! :-) yes, yes, > > yes please! > > > > > > On Nov 1, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Tys Sniffen wrote: > > > > > Just had to crow a bit - hello from inside our finished cob house. Only > > took > > > 4 years and 8 months, the two of us working full time. outside isn't > > done, > > > or the patio, or the deck, or the tool shed.etc etc. but still, we're > > > sleeping inside a clean, finished house tonight! > > > > > > > > > > > > Tys > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Coblist mailing list > > > Coblist at deatech.com > > > http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Coblist mailing list > > Coblist at deatech.com > > http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist > > > > > > End of Coblist Digest, Vol 9, Issue 127 > > *************************************** > > > > > > -- > ------------------- > "The greatest achievement is selflessness. > The greatest worth is self-mastery. > The greatest quality is seeking to serve others. > The greatest precept is continual awareness. > The greatest medicine is the emptiness of everything. > The greatest action is not conforming with the worlds ways. > The greatest magic is transmuting the passions. > The greatest generosity is non-attachment. > The greatest goodness is a peaceful mind. > The greatest patience is humility. > The greatest effort is not concerned with results. > The greatest meditation is a mind that lets go. > The greatest wisdom is seeing through appearances." > ~Atisha > > "Most of the luxuries, and many of the so-called comforts of life, > are not only not indispensable, but positive hindrances > to the elevation of mankind. With respect to luxuries and comforts, > the wisest have even lived a more simple and meagre life than the poor." > ~Henry David Thoreau > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:00:12 -0700 > From: "Tys Sniffen" <tys at ideamountain.com> > To: <coblist at deatech.com> > Subject: [Cob] photos of our Journey > Message-ID: <002d01cc99cc$53a6cc00$faf46400$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Folks, > > > > Many have asked for photos now that we're inside; the best way so far is to > check out the photo-blog: www.ideamountain.com > > > > Cheers, > > Tys > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:43:18 +0200 > From: Jill Hogan <jill.hogan at mat.org.za> > To: coblist at deatech.com > Subject: Re: [Cob] photos of our Journey > Message-ID: <4EB2D2B6.5030606 at mat.org.za> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Tys what abeautiful home congrats!!! > Blessings Jill > > On 2011/11/03 04:00 AM, Tys Sniffen wrote: > > Folks, > > > > > > > > Many have asked for photos now that we're inside; the best way so far is to > > check out the photo-blog: www.ideamountain.com > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Tys > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Coblist mailing list > > Coblist at deatech.com > > http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist > > > > > -- > *Jill Hogan* > McGregor Alternative Technology Centre "MAT" > PO Box 365 > McGregor > 6708 > > www.mat.org.za <http://www.mat.org.za> > Phone: 023 625 1533 > > Signature > > "Be the change you wish to see" Mohandas Ghandi > > If you do not wish to receive these mails, email us with unsubscribe in > the subject. Thanks > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Coblist mailing list > Coblist at deatech.com > http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist > > > End of Coblist Digest, Vol 9, Issue 128 > ***************************************
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