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Cob: RE: Mud Hut

Neana neana at terraworld.net
Thu Jan 16 13:23:00 CST 2003 

RE: Mud HutHas anybody read any of Daniel Quinn's Ishmael series.  Extremely thought-provoking.  Slightly off-topic as far as building, but not as far as alternative lifestyles.
Neana


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Abe Connally 
To: coblist at deatech.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:18 PM
Subject: Cob: RE: RE: Mud Hut


Yes,

Joseph Campbell can illustrate the path for anyone.  Another good read of his is "The Hero with a Thousand Faces"

What we must learn is how to merge our current knowledge and technology with the balance of the past.  There is no reason why one cannot have both.  Build with cob, use alternative energy, and still surf the net in the afternoon.  Actually, the best example is this list.  A discussion of like minds that spans continents, but the subject matter is over 10,000 years old.

My girlfriend and I are building a self-sustainable home nessled in the mountains of the Chihuahuan desert.  We are building out of cob and stone (both readily available)and including the standard gridless setup (ie.. rainwater catchment, solar and wind energy, passive solar design, etc).  We are also including modern conveniences like High speed satellite internet access, propane refrigeration, electric lights, etc.

Anything is possible.  Just focus your thoughts and energy on what needs to be accomplished, and then look and what you lack.  If done in the right frame of mind, you will never lack anything.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]On Behalf Of Ben Harrison
  Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:42 AM
  To: 'sarah kercheval'; coblist at deatech.com
  Subject: Cob: RE: Mud Hut


  I happen to own this book. I picked it up from Borders books several months 
  ago. It really is a great book. It's pretty much the only comprehensive book 
  I've been able to find on "primative architecture" of any kind. I would highly 
  recommend it to anyone interested in such things. I thoroughly agree with Sarah's 
  sentiments. There used to be a balance between man and nature. When I look at what 
  the world has become and the world that the native Americans thrived in, their world 
  looks quite utopian by comparison. It was only when man put himself above nature 
  (rather than a humble piece within nature) that the slow but steady march toward this 
  mess that we have now began. You could blame it on the rise of the Europeans(of which I'm decended) 
  but it really goes back to the birth of the the Judao-Christian religions. There was 
  a time when my ancestors in Europe lived much like the native Americans. Yes, like it or not, 
  religion and science are both equally to blame for the dead end road we find ourselves racing down. 
  The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell is another great book I would recommend.   

  -----Original Message----- 
  From: sarah kercheval [mailto:hi_eagle at hotmail.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:15 AM 
  To: coblist at deatech.com 
  Subject: Cob: Mud Hut 



  Yes, I agree, just call it what it is, and be proud! 
  Check out a really great book called Native American Architecture, the next 
  time you're at the library.  It is a great resource of natural buildings 
  that populated our landscape not too long ago.  We are looking to pruchase 
  this book in the future to reinforce our proof that what you live in is not 
  as important as HOW you live, ie, safe healthy, eco concious living 
  structures. 
  The proof positive that these structures are superior, is in the fact that 
  they no longer can be seen standing in most places.  They are gentler and 
  kinder to the earth in that they go back to it when their time is over. 
  This is in itself natural. 
  Sarah 



  >From: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net> 
  >Reply-To: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net> 
  >To: coblist at deatech.com 
  >Subject: RE: Cob: adobe/cob Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:20:36 -0600 
  > 
  >Everytime I mention these concepts to someone who is not 'into natural 
  >building', they cut across all of our carefully worded definitions and 
  >exclaim, "Are you REALLY going to build a MUD HUT?".  Since I have planned 
  >an amalgamation(sp?) of methods from the beginning, I have quit fighting 
  >and just answer, "Yep.  Got a problem with that?". 
  > 
  >;) 
  >Neana 
  >PS: Very punny, Matt! 



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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Has anybody read any of Daniel Quinn's Ishmael 
series.  Extremely thought-provoking.  Slightly off-topic as far 
as building, but not as far as alternative lifestyles.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Neana</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
title=abe at abeconnally.com href="mailto:abe at abeconnally.com">Abe Connally</A> 
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=coblist at deatech.com 
href="mailto:coblist at deatech.com">coblist at deatech.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:18 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Cob: RE: RE: Mud Hut</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=820181118-16012003>Yes,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=820181118-16012003>Joseph 
Campbell can illustrate the path for anyone.  Another good read of his is 
"The Hero with a Thousand Faces"</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=820181118-16012003>What 
we must learn is how to merge our current knowledge and technology with the 
balance of the past.  There is no reason why one cannot have both.  
Build with cob, use alternative energy, and still surf the net in the 
afternoon.  Actually, the best example is this list.  A discussion of 
like minds that spans continents, but the subject matter is over 10,000 years 
old.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=820181118-16012003>My 
girlfriend and I are building a self-sustainable home nessled in the mountains 
of the Chihuahuan desert.  We are building out of cob and stone (both 
readily available)and including the standard gridless setup (ie.. rainwater 
catchment, solar and wind energy, passive solar design, etc).  We are also 
including modern conveniences like High speed satellite internet access, propane 
refrigeration, electric lights, etc.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=820181118-16012003>Anything is possible.  Just focus your thoughts 
and energy on what needs to be accomplished, and then look and what you 
lack.  If done in the right frame of mind, you will never lack 
anything.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-coblist at deatech.com 
  [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ben 
  Harrison<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:42 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
  'sarah kercheval'; coblist at deatech.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Cob: RE: Mud 
  Hut<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <P><FONT size=2>I happen to own this book. I picked it up from Borders books 
  several months</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>ago. It really is a great book. It's 
  pretty much the only comprehensive book </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>I've been able 
  to find on "primative architecture" of any kind. I would highly 
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>recommend it to anyone interested in such things. I 
  thoroughly agree with Sarah's</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>sentiments. There used 
  to be a balance between man and nature. When I look at what </FONT><BR><FONT 
  size=2>the world has become and the world that the native Americans thrived 
  in, their world </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>looks quite utopian by comparison. It 
  was only when man put himself above nature</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>(rather 
  than a humble piece within nature) that the slow but steady march toward this 
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>mess that we have now began. You could blame it on the 
  rise of the Europeans(of which I'm decended)</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>but it 
  really goes back to the birth of the the Judao-Christian religions. There 
  was</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>a time when my ancestors in Europe lived much like 
  the native Americans. Yes, like it or not, </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>religion 
  and science are both equally to blame for the dead end road we find ourselves 
  racing down.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell is 
  another great book I would recommend.   </FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From: sarah 
  kercheval [<A 
  href="mailto:hi_eagle at hotmail.com">mailto:hi_eagle at hotmail.com</A>]</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:15 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>To: coblist at deatech.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: Cob: Mud 
  Hut</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>Yes, I agree, just call it what it is, and be proud!</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>Check out a really great book called Native American 
  Architecture, the next </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>time you're at the 
  library.  It is a great resource of natural buildings </FONT><BR><FONT 
  size=2>that populated our landscape not too long ago.  We are looking to 
  pruchase </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>this book in the future to reinforce our 
  proof that what you live in is not </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>as important as HOW 
  you live, ie, safe healthy, eco concious living </FONT><BR><FONT 
  size=2>structures.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>The proof positive that these 
  structures are superior, is in the fact that </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>they no 
  longer can be seen standing in most places.  They are gentler and 
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>kinder to the earth in that they go back to it when 
  their time is over.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>This is in itself natural.</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>Sarah</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>>From: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net></FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>>Reply-To: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net></FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>>To: coblist at deatech.com</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>>Subject: RE: Cob: adobe/cob Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:20:36 
  -0600</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>Everytime I 
  mention these concepts to someone who is not 'into natural </FONT><BR><FONT 
  size=2>>building', they cut across all of our carefully worded definitions 
  and </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>>exclaim, "Are you REALLY going to build a MUD 
  HUT?".  Since I have planned </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>>an 
  amalgamation(sp?) of methods from the beginning, I have quit fighting 
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>>and just answer, "Yep.  Got a problem with 
  that?".</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>;)</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>>Neana</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>PS: Very punny, 
  Matt!</FONT> </P><BR>
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