Cob: RE: Mud Hut
Neana
neana at terraworld.net
Thu Jan 16 13:23:00 CST 2003
RE: Mud HutHas anybody read any of Daniel Quinn's Ishmael series. Extremely thought-provoking. Slightly off-topic as far as building, but not as far as alternative lifestyles.
Neana
----- Original Message -----
From: Abe Connally
To: coblist at deatech.com
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:18 PM
Subject: Cob: RE: RE: Mud Hut
Yes,
Joseph Campbell can illustrate the path for anyone. Another good read of his is "The Hero with a Thousand Faces"
What we must learn is how to merge our current knowledge and technology with the balance of the past. There is no reason why one cannot have both. Build with cob, use alternative energy, and still surf the net in the afternoon. Actually, the best example is this list. A discussion of like minds that spans continents, but the subject matter is over 10,000 years old.
My girlfriend and I are building a self-sustainable home nessled in the mountains of the Chihuahuan desert. We are building out of cob and stone (both readily available)and including the standard gridless setup (ie.. rainwater catchment, solar and wind energy, passive solar design, etc). We are also including modern conveniences like High speed satellite internet access, propane refrigeration, electric lights, etc.
Anything is possible. Just focus your thoughts and energy on what needs to be accomplished, and then look and what you lack. If done in the right frame of mind, you will never lack anything.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]On Behalf Of Ben Harrison
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:42 AM
To: 'sarah kercheval'; coblist at deatech.com
Subject: Cob: RE: Mud Hut
I happen to own this book. I picked it up from Borders books several months
ago. It really is a great book. It's pretty much the only comprehensive book
I've been able to find on "primative architecture" of any kind. I would highly
recommend it to anyone interested in such things. I thoroughly agree with Sarah's
sentiments. There used to be a balance between man and nature. When I look at what
the world has become and the world that the native Americans thrived in, their world
looks quite utopian by comparison. It was only when man put himself above nature
(rather than a humble piece within nature) that the slow but steady march toward this
mess that we have now began. You could blame it on the rise of the Europeans(of which I'm decended)
but it really goes back to the birth of the the Judao-Christian religions. There was
a time when my ancestors in Europe lived much like the native Americans. Yes, like it or not,
religion and science are both equally to blame for the dead end road we find ourselves racing down.
The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell is another great book I would recommend.
-----Original Message-----
From: sarah kercheval [mailto:hi_eagle at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:15 AM
To: coblist at deatech.com
Subject: Cob: Mud Hut
Yes, I agree, just call it what it is, and be proud!
Check out a really great book called Native American Architecture, the next
time you're at the library. It is a great resource of natural buildings
that populated our landscape not too long ago. We are looking to pruchase
this book in the future to reinforce our proof that what you live in is not
as important as HOW you live, ie, safe healthy, eco concious living
structures.
The proof positive that these structures are superior, is in the fact that
they no longer can be seen standing in most places. They are gentler and
kinder to the earth in that they go back to it when their time is over.
This is in itself natural.
Sarah
>From: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net>
>Reply-To: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net>
>To: coblist at deatech.com
>Subject: RE: Cob: adobe/cob Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:20:36 -0600
>
>Everytime I mention these concepts to someone who is not 'into natural
>building', they cut across all of our carefully worded definitions and
>exclaim, "Are you REALLY going to build a MUD HUT?". Since I have planned
>an amalgamation(sp?) of methods from the beginning, I have quit fighting
>and just answer, "Yep. Got a problem with that?".
>
>;)
>Neana
>PS: Very punny, Matt!
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Has anybody read any of Daniel Quinn's Ishmael
series. Extremely thought-provoking. Slightly off-topic as far
as building, but not as far as alternative lifestyles.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Neana</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=abe at abeconnally.com href="mailto:abe at abeconnally.com">Abe Connally</A>
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=coblist at deatech.com
href="mailto:coblist at deatech.com">coblist at deatech.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:18 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003>Yes,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=820181118-16012003>Joseph
Campbell can illustrate the path for anyone. Another good read of his is
"The Hero with a Thousand Faces"</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=820181118-16012003>What
we must learn is how to merge our current knowledge and technology with the
balance of the past. There is no reason why one cannot have both.
Build with cob, use alternative energy, and still surf the net in the
afternoon. Actually, the best example is this list. A discussion of
like minds that spans continents, but the subject matter is over 10,000 years
old.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=820181118-16012003>My
girlfriend and I are building a self-sustainable home nessled in the mountains
of the Chihuahuan desert. We are building out of cob and stone (both
readily available)and including the standard gridless setup (ie.. rainwater
catchment, solar and wind energy, passive solar design, etc). We are also
including modern conveniences like High speed satellite internet access, propane
refrigeration, electric lights, etc.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003>Anything is possible. Just focus your thoughts
and energy on what needs to be accomplished, and then look and what you
lack. If done in the right frame of mind, you will never lack
anything.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-coblist at deatech.com
[mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ben
Harrison<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:42 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'sarah kercheval'; coblist at deatech.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Cob: RE: Mud
Hut<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>I happen to own this book. I picked it up from Borders books
several months</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>ago. It really is a great book. It's
pretty much the only comprehensive book </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>I've been able
to find on "primative architecture" of any kind. I would highly
</FONT><BR><FONT size=2>recommend it to anyone interested in such things. I
thoroughly agree with Sarah's</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>sentiments. There used
to be a balance between man and nature. When I look at what </FONT><BR><FONT
size=2>the world has become and the world that the native Americans thrived
in, their world </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>looks quite utopian by comparison. It
was only when man put himself above nature</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>(rather
than a humble piece within nature) that the slow but steady march toward this
</FONT><BR><FONT size=2>mess that we have now began. You could blame it on the
rise of the Europeans(of which I'm decended)</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>but it
really goes back to the birth of the the Judao-Christian religions. There
was</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>a time when my ancestors in Europe lived much like
the native Americans. Yes, like it or not, </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>religion
and science are both equally to blame for the dead end road we find ourselves
racing down.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell is
another great book I would recommend. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From: sarah
kercheval [<A
href="mailto:hi_eagle at hotmail.com">mailto:hi_eagle at hotmail.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:15 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>To: coblist at deatech.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: Cob: Mud
Hut</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>Yes, I agree, just call it what it is, and be proud!</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Check out a really great book called Native American
Architecture, the next </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>time you're at the
library. It is a great resource of natural buildings </FONT><BR><FONT
size=2>that populated our landscape not too long ago. We are looking to
pruchase </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>this book in the future to reinforce our
proof that what you live in is not </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>as important as HOW
you live, ie, safe healthy, eco concious living </FONT><BR><FONT
size=2>structures.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>The proof positive that these
structures are superior, is in the fact that </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>they no
longer can be seen standing in most places. They are gentler and
</FONT><BR><FONT size=2>kinder to the earth in that they go back to it when
their time is over.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>This is in itself natural.</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Sarah</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>>From: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net></FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>>Reply-To: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net></FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>>To: coblist at deatech.com</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>>Subject: RE: Cob: adobe/cob Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:20:36
-0600</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>Everytime I
mention these concepts to someone who is not 'into natural </FONT><BR><FONT
size=2>>building', they cut across all of our carefully worded definitions
and </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>>exclaim, "Are you REALLY going to build a MUD
HUT?". Since I have planned </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>>an
amalgamation(sp?) of methods from the beginning, I have quit fighting
</FONT><BR><FONT size=2>>and just answer, "Yep. Got a problem with
that?".</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>;)</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>>Neana</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>PS: Very punny,
Matt!</FONT> </P><BR>
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