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Cob: Fw: Not a forum for politics

dcv dcv at datawise.net
Fri Jan 17 08:33:37 CST 2003 

I agree that the forum should be held to on-topic issues. 

Can we please relate to each other in a non-condescending manner as to not run off folks because of poor taste?
 
 I have left this site twice and came back because I am interested in COB - I watched two more people ask to be removed from the list in two days.
 
 Will the "experts" curb their tongues to allow us dumbass types to relate our thoughts without the ignorant put downs.

Unless you were "there" during the actual historical events that created these methods - you are learning with the rest of us.

Good God - life is too short for this crap. Tell me about COB not how freaking smart you think you are.
 
 COB BABY COB - thats what I'm talking about!
 
 dcv

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darel Henman" <henman at it.to-be.co.jp>
To: "Brent Flaco Wilson" <realm_fitness at hotmail.com>
Cc: <bharrison at crystald.com>; <PNewberry at HFHI.org>; coblist at deatech.com>
 Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:53 PM
 Subject: Cob: Not a forum for politics
 
 Brent,
please refrain from naive philosophical and dubious comments about history.  Your last two for example contained some whoppers.  Let us focus on earthen structures and materials that all can make and use safely.

Thanks,
Darel

Brent Flaco Wilson wrote:

Well lets take a guess at where dirt poor people in mexico and guatemala get their hands on lead based paint, styrofaom, etc.  Could it be do to the
influence and domincance of the "first" world.  I have never heard of traditional homes in either country using paint, styrofoam, it's only until
the people have their land base stripped and used for capatilist ventures that they have to resort to surviving using the "machines" products,
lets be real, rich ways of life using native substances is what most 3rd countries are known for.  LOOK to the source and you will find we live on the pig!

Brent Flaco Wilson wrote:
i would like to address 2 comments made.  One relating to life span of people from the past.  25 years is a little short sighted, that sounds as if
a european aristocrat was describing the life span of a "savage." It has been said in the past of elders being 100 hundred winters or more.  IT seems as if those people who lived before this modern industrail time had healthy lifes, long ones, and the lifespan death rate is not really
different then today, it's just that theres more people in documentation so it seems as if
the birth rate and lifespan is up.  The other issue is the difference between "3rd" and "1st" world.  THere is in fact huge differences.  3rd world countries are not largely anglo saxon, imigrant,
european descent, or wealthy.  THough they are in fact indigenous, culturally rich, poor, abused
and used by the first world for rubber, oil, trees, fabric, food, etc.  We should actually focus on the difference and find out, it's our cars, our clothes, our jewelry our bananas, our beef that is furthering the distance between first and third world.  Oh and one more thing, native american
persons, cultures are a whole mind set away from our current "western" flow of life.  Many of the native americans had harmonious lifestyles, being part of the earth, not dominating her etc.  I think it's important that we realized that our "us" power of pride way of life took mass genicide of
natives, mass enslavement of africans, mass manipulation of poor pheasants ........

 I prefer the local ones roasted with an orange sauce myself.

 from europe, mass movements of racist religious rhetoric to
establish this "great" life we live.  I never pledged allegiance, did you? 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I agree that the forum should be held to on-topic 
issues. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can we please relate to each other in a 
non-condescending manner as to not run off folks because of poor 
taste?<BR> <BR> I have left this site twice and came back because I am 
interested in COB - I watched two more people ask to be removed from the list in 
two days.<BR> <BR> Will the "experts" curb their tongues to allow us 
dumbass types to relate our thoughts without the ignorant put 
downs.<BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Unless you were "there" during the actual 
historical events that created these methods - you are learning with the rest of 
us.<BR><BR>Good God - life is too short for this crap. Tell me about COB not how 
freaking smart you think you are.<BR> <BR> COB BABY COB - thats what I'm 
talking about!<BR> <BR> dcv<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Darel 
Henman" <</FONT><A href="mailto:henman at it.to-be.co.jp"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>henman at it.to-be.co.jp</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>To: 
"Brent Flaco Wilson" <</FONT><A href="mailto:realm_fitness at hotmail.com"><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>realm_fitness at hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>><BR>Cc: <</FONT><A href="mailto:bharrison at crystald.com"><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>bharrison at crystald.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; 
<</FONT><A href="mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>PNewberry at HFHI.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; </FONT><A 
href="mailto:coblist at deatech.com"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>coblist at deatech.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR> Sent: 
Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:53 PM<BR> Subject: Cob: Not a forum for 
politics<BR> <BR> Brent,<BR>please refrain from naive philosophical and 
dubious comments about history.  Your last two for example contained some 
whoppers.  Let us focus on earthen structures and materials that all can 
make and use safely.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,<BR>Darel<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brent Flaco Wilson wrote:<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Well lets take a guess at where dirt poor people in 
mexico and guatemala get their hands on lead based paint, styrofaom, etc.  
Could it be do to the<BR>influence and domincance of the "first" world.  I 
have never heard of traditional homes in either country using paint, styrofoam, 
it's only until<BR>the people have their land base stripped and used for 
capatilist ventures that they have to resort to surviving using the "machines" 
products,<BR>lets be real, rich ways of life using native substances is what 
most 3rd countries are known for.  LOOK to the source and you will find we 
live on the pig!<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brent Flaco Wilson wrote:<BR>i would like to 
address 2 comments made.  One relating to life span of people from the 
past.  25 years is a little short sighted, that sounds as if<BR>a european 
aristocrat was describing the life span of a "savage." It has been said in the 
past of elders being 100 hundred winters or more.  IT seems as if those 
people who lived before this modern industrail time had healthy lifes, long 
ones, and the lifespan death rate is not really<BR>different then today, it's 
just that theres more people in documentation so it seems as if<BR>the birth 
rate and lifespan is up.  The other issue is the difference between "3rd" 
and "1st" world.  THere is in fact huge differences.  3rd world 
countries are not largely anglo saxon, imigrant,<BR>european descent, or 
wealthy.  THough they are in fact indigenous, culturally rich, poor, 
abused<BR>and used by the first world for rubber, oil, trees, fabric, food, 
etc.  We should actually focus on the difference and find out, it's our 
cars, our clothes, our jewelry our bananas, our beef that is furthering the 
distance between first and third world.  Oh and one more thing, native 
american<BR>persons, cultures are a whole mind set away from our current 
"western" flow of life.  Many of the native americans had harmonious 
lifestyles, being part of the earth, not dominating her etc.  I think it's 
important that we realized that our "us" power of pride way of life took mass 
genicide of<BR>natives, mass enslavement of africans, mass manipulation of poor 
pheasants ........<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#ff0000> I prefer the local ones 
roasted with an orange sauce myself.</FONT><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> from europe, mass movements of racist 
religious rhetoric to<BR>establish this "great" life we live.  I never 
pledged allegiance, did you? </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>