In a message dated 8/23/2004 8:53:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gakayaker at yahoo.com writes: KUDZU vines for wattle. Kudzu is great if you are making something small like a basket of a birdhouse, but for a real house try willow or bamboo. Bamboo worked great for me the only catch if finding the bamboo splitters. I have pictures of splitters and wattle if anyone is interested. Ed