[Cob] the cold box/fridge debate

[joseph r dupont]

using heat tubes you could keep an old freezer ice cold most of the
winter even though it was inside.
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:21:00 -0500 Yun Que <yunk88 at hotmail.com> writes:
> 
> 
> Cat here!  lived without fridge for over a year.  used the cellar 
> and the north side of the house shaded by lots of trees.  I am a 
> vegetarian, and grew and wild crafted my food so having a fridge 
> wasn't too important...dried stuff stored in jars. Green stuff 
> growing outside.  Canned stuff in the cold months.  I don't drink 
> milk .  Wine in the cellar and cheese on the north side.  Got my 
> eggs locally every other week, kept fine.  When I got a container of 
> B&J's I invited a friend over!)  Loved the absence of the infernal 
> compressor noise....sweet silence at night!
> 
> for the good of all C.
> 
> > From: tys at ideamountain.com
> > To: coblist at deatech.com
> > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:18:10 -0800
> > Subject: [Cob] the cold box/fridge debate
> > 
> > Hey folks,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > As I'm building our cob house (still mortaring together stem wall 
> over bond
> > beam) I'm planning out kitchen cabinets and stuff, and have been 
> thinking
> > about food storage. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > One interesting thing I have planned is a trap door storage box in 
> the
> > floor. Because we are doing a bit of berming in and are building 
> on a slope,
> > we have to fill in under our floor with gravel to level things out 
> before
> > the radiant tubes go in the earth floor.  Because of the slope, 
> I've got
> > quite a bit of gravel going in right below the kitchen floor, and 
> to save
> > money (buying gravel) and energy (hauling gravel) I came up with 
> the idea of
> > a tiled box sunk into the gravel with a trap door on it for cool 
> storage.  I
> > can send pictures as it develops.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > We also intend to have a small 'cold box' in the wall above the 
> countertop,
> > with the typical screen back, wooden door front for cool storage, 
> and once
> > our solar system is in place, we'll get a chest freezer (and I'll 
> probably
> > double insulate it and build a cob bank around it too). 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Currently in our yurt (where we've lived [in N. CA] for 17 months 
> already!)
> > we have a propane under-the-counter fridge that I was planning on 
> moving to
> > the 'big house'.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > But now I'm thinking I don't want a fridge at all.  Having to vent 
> the back
> > of this propane one, or getting some sort of very efficient 
> electric one
> > (and having to vent that or plan for the heat escape as well) 
> seems at the
> > least, inelegant and at worst, troublesome.  I'd love to be more 
> independent
> > from the propane company.  Then again, I have this propane fridge, 
> it's paid
> > for. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > The biggest hurdle is convincing my wife we'd be fine with a 
> freezer and a
> > cold box.  Anyone out there living without a fridge?  Done any 
> comparisons
> > with cold box vs fridge and food storage? 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Tys
> > 
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will be here till around Jan 8-12
with cats  ducky and Josephine  Son Michael will be here during this time
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