[Cob] Coblist Digest, Vol 7, Issue 34: RESPONSE FROM SU HAGAN IN BULGARIA TO CHARMAINES EMAIL
Susan Hagan
su.hagan at hotmail.co.uk
Sun Feb 22 04:14:16 CST 2009
I, for one, and obviously not the only one, really value what Charmaine has to say on the subject of natural building. I live in Bulgaria in a small village and though I am surrounded by crumbling cob houses am considered a crazy old english lady to try to revive the ones I have on my property. This list is a valuable resource for me and Charmaine's input is important to me.
Please don't leave the list.
Kind Regards,
Su Hagan
www.ayurvedic-tours.co.uk
07952 986504 (UK Moblile) 00359(0)895724164 (Bulgarian Mobile) 00359 6128263 (Bulgarian Landline)
With Thanks.
Susan Hagan.
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> 1. cob- peanuts in floors- paracrete (Charmaine Taylor)
> 2. Re: cob- peanuts in floors- paracrete (drub)
> 3. Re: cob- peanuts in floors- paracrete (Sabrina Free)
> 4. Re: cob- peanuts in floors- paracrete (howard at earthandstraw.com)
> 5. news: Snail Cabin & Abrazo House (Robert Alcock)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:37:26 -0800
> From: Charmaine Taylor <dirtcheapbuilderbooks at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Cob] cob- peanuts in floors- paracrete
> To: coblist at deatech.com
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> I often regret taking the time to provide answers to questions on this list.
> there really is a 'Jump up in your face' reaction to many people's emails.
> for this reason I know people leave this list to find a place they can ask
> a question without holier than thou responses.
> The moderator keeps the non cob stuff off the list.. but an occasional
> question asking about materials use is now getting trashed.. I give up using
> my time here
>
> Tyn asked about peanuts used in a buried foundation base.
> foam peanuts in clay or dirt for a sub floor I think, as insulation. I
> mentioned using Gaia foam in my clay floor base..
> when I mention a similar idea-as an example of what haas been DONE I am
> sure to be slammed by purists and "just guessing" people ready to point
> all the problems with someone else's ideas and designs.
>
> EPS DUST when coated with cement may never burn.. I know the reason this
> man ( Tapasananda) created the mix for his religious community was to
> save them from fires burning the houses down from the local forest..
>
> anyone stupid enough to stand around in any fire - even in COB, will die
> from the smoke of other burning materials... smoke inhalation is the
> killer-- FROM fabric, paper, wood. furniture, foutons, grass matts, .
> it's not the evil off gassing that gets tossed out.
>
>
>
> --
> Ms. Charmaine Taylor/ Taylor Publishing
> www.dirtcheapbuilder.com www. papercrete.com
> PO Box 375, Cutten CA 95534
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:37:53 -0800
> From: drub <drub at pobox.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cob] cob- peanuts in floors- paracrete
> To: Charmaine Taylor <dirtcheapbuilderbooks at gmail.com>
> Cc: coblist at deatech.com
> Message-ID: <499F3ED1.8090905 at pobox.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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>
> Hang in there Charmaine. There are those of us who appreciate your
> participation. Please don't be one to flee.
>
> Sometimes we have to remind ourselves that the subtle conversation cues
> are lost in email. Perhaps some don't intend to sound as aggressive or
> negative or whatever. Email is a pretty shallow communication medium.
>
> All the best,
> David
>
>
> Charmaine Taylor wrote:
> > I often regret taking the time to provide answers to questions on this list.
> > there really is a 'Jump up in your face' reaction to many people's emails.
> > for this reason I know people leave this list to find a place they can ask
> > a question without holier than thou responses.
> > The moderator keeps the non cob stuff off the list.. but an occasional
> > question asking about materials use is now getting trashed.. I give up using
> > my time here
> >
> > Tyn asked about peanuts used in a buried foundation base.
> > foam peanuts in clay or dirt for a sub floor I think, as insulation. I
> > mentioned using Gaia foam in my clay floor base..
> > when I mention a similar idea-as an example of what haas been DONE I am
> > sure to be slammed by purists and "just guessing" people ready to point
> > all the problems with someone else's ideas and designs.
> >
> > EPS DUST when coated with cement may never burn.. I know the reason this
> > man ( Tapasananda) created the mix for his religious community was to
> > save them from fires burning the houses down from the local forest..
> >
> > anyone stupid enough to stand around in any fire - even in COB, will die
> > from the smoke of other burning materials... smoke inhalation is the
> > killer-- FROM fabric, paper, wood. furniture, foutons, grass matts, .
> > it's not the evil off gassing that gets tossed out.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:54:40 -0500
> From: Sabrina Free <sabrinafree at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cob] cob- peanuts in floors- paracrete
> To: coblist at deatech.com
> Cc: Charmaine Taylor <dirtcheapbuilderbooks at gmail.com>
> Message-ID:
> <74f3f4db0902201554o2e0af6fese08f8a9fff6b8fb0 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I don't say much here, and sometimes wonder if most of the emails don't even
> get to me, because there sure aren't many. I never even saw the ones
> referred to here.
>
> That said, I have been reading this for probably 13 years, if it has been
> here this long! I can't even imagine the coblist without Charmaine being
> here. I learn so much from your posts, have ordered books from you, been
> envious of you because you actually do stuff while I sit here dreaming of
> doing stuff.
>
> People do appreciate you, and your time. At least I do!
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Sabrina Free
>
>
> are the greenest buildings the one's that don't get built?
>
>
> >
> >
> > Charmaine Taylor wrote:
> > I give up using
> > > my time here
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:27:00 -0600
> From: <howard at earthandstraw.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cob] cob- peanuts in floors- paracrete
> To: <coblist at deatech.com>
> Message-ID: <911F7F4F4F384951B56CD018D4AB7A2C at h4howard1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> >Perhaps some don't intend to sound as aggressive or
> >negative or whatever. Email is a pretty shallow communication medium.
>
> I agree and have learned not to react so much to the style but only comment on the info/facts etc.
> However, on other lists some people seem to hate my tone no matter what I say. I think my tone, I assume all our tones, change with our mood at the time. We should be forgiving of moods and reactions, perhaps, we're only human.
>
>
> Howard Switzer, Architect
> 668 Hurricane Creek Road
> Linden, TN 37096
> 931-589-6513
> www.earthandstraw.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: drub
> To: Charmaine Taylor
> Cc: coblist at deatech.com
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cob] cob- peanuts in floors- paracrete
>
>
>
> Hang in there Charmaine. There are those of us who appreciate your
> participation. Please don't be one to flee.
>
> Sometimes we have to remind ourselves that the subtle conversation cues
> are lost in email. Perhaps some don't intend to sound as aggressive or
> negative or whatever. Email is a pretty shallow communication medium.
>
> All the best,
> David
>
>
> Charmaine Taylor wrote:
> > I often regret taking the time to provide answers to questions on this list.
> > there really is a 'Jump up in your face' reaction to many people's emails.
> > for this reason I know people leave this list to find a place they can ask
> > a question without holier than thou responses.
> > The moderator keeps the non cob stuff off the list.. but an occasional
> > question asking about materials use is now getting trashed.. I give up using
> > my time here
> >
> > Tyn asked about peanuts used in a buried foundation base.
> > foam peanuts in clay or dirt for a sub floor I think, as insulation. I
> > mentioned using Gaia foam in my clay floor base..
> > when I mention a similar idea-as an example of what haas been DONE I am
> > sure to be slammed by purists and "just guessing" people ready to point
> > all the problems with someone else's ideas and designs.
> >
> > EPS DUST when coated with cement may never burn.. I know the reason this
> > man ( Tapasananda) created the mix for his religious community was to
> > save them from fires burning the houses down from the local forest..
> >
> > anyone stupid enough to stand around in any fire - even in COB, will die
> > from the smoke of other burning materials... smoke inhalation is the
> > killer-- FROM fabric, paper, wood. furniture, foutons, grass matts, .
> > it's not the evil off gassing that gets tossed out.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 06:40:30 +0100
> From: Robert Alcock <ralcock at euskalnet.net>
> Subject: [Cob] news: Snail Cabin & Abrazo House
> To: coblist at deatech.com
> Message-ID: <499F93CE.9010809 at euskalnet.net>
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>
> Hi all,
>
> In case you've been wondering whatever happened to those people who were
> building a cob house in northern Spain...
> Well, we finished building Snail Cabin and last summer started work on
> the main house/study centre, a two-story hybrid straw bale/cob structure
> called Abrazo House.
> We've got a new website, http://www.abrazohouse.org, where you can find
> photos and information about both houses, about the transformation of
> the land into an edible forest garden, and more.
>
> This year we are going to be resuming work on Abrazo House. We welcome
> volunteers who want to learn self-build with natural materials, to come
> and lend a hand for a minimum of one week, starting in April 2009.
> Please visit the website for more information.
>
> All the best,
>
> Robert
> http://www.abrazohouse.org
>
> (Apologies to anyone who gets this message more than once.)
>
>
>
>
>
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