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Cob: A Proposal for YaleGregori Robinson robinson at on.aibn.comSat Oct 6 17:08:23 CDT 2001
Mafi, Dear Mafi, I think the best approach on this is to strike a committee within the University community and formally invite someone such as myself to facilitate the process of developing a program. As an environmental art consultants, our feeling is that if properly approached, Yale, or any progressive university would embrace such a project. The area of interest that we have been pursuing is 3-D modeling for organic form in architecture. The potential of this is beyond imagination as the G-Code Files can be scaled and manipulated within the software and then outputed to CNC routers, laser cutters and milling machines I have a CNC Router within ArtNouveau.ws and would be able to provide prototypes for the proposal. The objectives are three fold: 1. Creating a forum for artists and sculptures to be involved in the design process of architecture. 2. Inviting Environmental consultants the opportunity to reach their highest potential. 3 Provide a forum for Artists, Environmental Consultants, Computer Science Experts, and Instructors of Architecture to interface. The results would be the realization of a truly prime example of Sustainable Architecture. The program would provide opportunity for the students to be involved in every aspect of the project from modeling the originals in clay to scanning the models, creating designs on 3-D Modeling Software to working the CNC routers, to building the project. Our proposal would include a video documentary, as well as assist in locating the sponsorships. Our research show that funding is readily available for such an ideal proposal. A quote from Margaret Mead: "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world, indeed it's the only thing that ever has" Gregori Robinson Creative Director ArtNouveau.ws ----- Original Message ----- From: Mafalda Stock <mafalda.stock at yale.edu> To: Gregori Robinson <robinson at on.aibn.com> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 2:25 PM Subject: Re: Cob: Fw: Organic Architecture and Universities > God, Gregori, I'd give my back teeth to see something progressive taking > place instead of that veneer of interest in the environment. Could we ever > do with it in this area! Good luck, in fact, the best of luck! > Mafi > > At 10/5/2001 03:23 PM -0700, you wrote: > >Thanks for the lead, will contact them and keep you posted! > > > >Gregori > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Mafalda Stock <mafalda.stock at yale.edu> > >To: Gregori Robinson <robinson at on.aibn.com> > >Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:16 AM > >Subject: Re: Cob: Fw: Organic Architecture and Universities > > > > > > > Great question, and the answer from me is, alas, NOT at Yale. I have been > > > trying to fire interest in what we are trying to do with the School of > > > Forestry, but nothing substantive has come of it. It takes so long to get > > > people interested in what's good for the world.... > > > > > > BUT, here's an idea: Would YOU like to ask these people as though you are > > > just trying to find out? Maybe if they hear from someone on the outside > >it > > > would sink in better? > > > SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE > > > Dean, Robert A. Stern: robert.a.stern at yale.edu > > > Assoc. Dean, John Jacobson: john.jacobson at yale.edu > > > Assoc. Dean, Margaret Deamer: peggy.deamer at yale.edu > > > > > > SCHOOL OF FORESTRY & ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES > > > > > > Dean, James Gustave Speth: gus.speth at yale.edu > > > Assoc. Dean, Academic Affairs, Daniel Esty: daniel.esty at yale.edu > > > > > > It's a start and maybe you can open eyes where I was too unimportant to? > >:-))) > > > Good Luck, > > > Mafi Stock > > > > > > > > > At 10/5/2001 10:27 AM -0700, you wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know of an acredited "School of Architecture" that > >provides > > > >the > > > > > type of research found within this Sustainable Architecture > >Community? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gregori Robinson > > > > > Creative Director > > > > > ArtNouveau.ws > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Vicki and David Wicker <macmastr at cswnet.com> > > > > > To: Charmaine R Taylor <tms at northcoast.com>; Patrick Newberry > > > > > <PNewberry at HFHI.org> > > > > > Cc: <coblist at deatech.com> > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:20 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: Cob: mixing cob/clay was: poor & new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charmaine > > > > > > I am considering the paper cob as an infill for a post and beam > >framed > > > > > > house. But am wanting to then wrap the whole thing with one or two > >inch > > > > > > rigid foam in order to have insulation around the framing. The > >exterior > > > > > > shell of insulation was recommended in THE PASSIVE SOLAR HOUSE as > > > >critical > > > > > > to efficient heating and cooling. I am wondering if you would want > >to > > > >put > > > > > a > > > > > > moisture barrier between the padobe in fill and the insulation. I > >was > > > >also > > > > > > considering putting wood slats on the outside and attaching the foam > >to > > > > > that > > > > > > so as to create an air space. "Breathable" keeps coming up in > > > >discussions > > > > > as > > > > > > important, but I'm not sure I understand that concept. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Charmaine R Taylor" <tms at northcoast.com> > > > > > > To: "Patrick Newberry" <PNewberry at HFHI.org> > > > > > > Cc: <coblist at deatech.com> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:52 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: Cob: mixing cob/clay was: poor & new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cob is actually 1/4 R per inch..it is mass not thermal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sound like she has "enough" as Joe Dominguez (your money or your > >life > > > > > > > fame) said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best bet for some heat is to make light straw clay or > >woodchip/sawdust > > > > > > > clay tamped between forms, as Ken Kern promoted, and as the > >germans do > > > > > > > nmow. This is my favorite technique in addtion to earth bag as > >just > > > >some > > > > > > > mixing is done and the mix is poured and lightly tamped into > >place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as you all may know I use a 1950s wringer washer as a mixer, and > >mix > > > > > > > paper clay lime, sawdust, other fibers to make a good thick or > >thin > > > > > > > material for MANY uses..right now it's sculpted and formed pottery > >and > > > > > > > garden stuff..stepping sones, fill in gor a slope are ( used Mt St > > > > > > > helen's ash & lime & clay with coffee grain sized sawdust to make > >a > > > > > > > poured step off, holding up great..except for the bear paw print > >and > > > > > > > racoon print the first night!! no kidding..now I look twice when I > > > >step > > > > > > > outside after dark for 'ole bear) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in any case, I ramble..wringer washer is a GREAT agitaor to mke > >the > > > >clay > > > > > > > slip and also for the fiber mixing, will try chopped straw soon. > >best > > > > > > > part is that you can make a wetter mix then let sit a few days, or > > > > > > > remove and let drain/dry up a bit to get a thick malleable dough > >easy > > > > > > > for shaping.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pics of the mixer ( I named him Dewey, are at the site below) > > > > > > > Ms. Charmaine Taylor/ Taylor Publishing > > > > > > > http://www.dirtcheapbuilder.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mafi,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear Mafi,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think the best approach on this is to strike a committee within the University community and formally invite someone </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>such as myself to</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> facilitate the process of developing a program. As an environmental art consultants, our feeling is that if properly approached, Yale, or any progressive university would embrace such a project. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The area of interest that we have been pursuing is 3-D modeling for organic form in architecture. The potential of this is beyond imagination as the G-Code Files can be scaled and manipulated within the software and then outputed to CNC routers, laser cutters and milling machines I have a CNC Router within ArtNouveau.ws and would be able to provide prototypes for the proposal. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The objectives are three fold:</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. Creating a forum for artists and sculptures to be involved in the design process of architecture. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. Inviting Environmental consultants the opportunity to reach their highest potential.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3 Provide a forum for Artists, Environmental Consultants, Computer Science Experts, </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>and Instructors of Architecture to interface. The results would be the realization of a truly prime example of Sustainable Architecture.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The program would provide opportunity for the students to be involved in every aspect of the project from modeling the originals in clay to scanning the models, creating designs on 3-D Modeling Software to working the CNC routers, to building the project. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Our proposal would include a video documentary, as well as assist in locating the sponsorships. Our research show that funding is readily available for such an ideal proposal.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A quote from Margaret Mead:</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><U>"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change<BR>the world, indeed it's the only thing that ever has"</U></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gregori Robinson<BR>Creative Director<BR>ArtNouveau.ws</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: Mafalda Stock <<A href="mailto:mafalda.stock at yale.edu">mafalda.stock at yale.edu</A>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: Gregori Robinson <<A href="mailto:robinson at on.aibn.com">robinson at on.aibn.com</A>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 2:25 PM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: Cob: Fw: Organic Architecture and Universities</FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> God, Gregori, I'd give my back teeth to see something progressive taking <BR>> place instead of that veneer of interest in the environment. Could we ever <BR>> do with it in this area! Good luck, in fact, the best of luck!<BR>> Mafi<BR>> <BR>> At 10/5/2001 03:23 PM -0700, you wrote:<BR>> >Thanks for the lead, will contact them and keep you posted!<BR>> ><BR>> >Gregori<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >----- Original Message -----<BR>> >From: Mafalda Stock <<A href="mailto:mafalda.stock at yale.edu">mafalda.stock at yale.edu</A>><BR>> >To: Gregori Robinson <<A href="mailto:robinson at on.aibn.com">robinson at on.aibn.com</A>><BR>> >Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:16 AM<BR>> >Subject: Re: Cob: Fw: Organic Architecture and Universities<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > > Great question, and the answer from me is, alas, NOT at Yale. I have been<BR>> > > trying to fire interest in what we are trying to do with the School of<BR>> > > Forestry, but nothing substantive has come of it. It takes so long to get<BR>> > > people interested in what's good for the world....<BR>> > ><BR>> > > BUT, here's an idea: Would YOU like to ask these people as though you are<BR>> > > just trying to find out? Maybe if they hear from someone on the outside<BR>> >it<BR>> > > would sink in better?<BR>> > > SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE<BR>> > > Dean, Robert A. Stern: <A href="mailto:robert.a.stern at yale.edu">robert.a.stern at yale.edu</A><BR>> > > Assoc. Dean, John Jacobson: <A href="mailto:john.jacobson at yale.edu">john.jacobson at yale.edu</A><BR>> > > Assoc. Dean, Margaret Deamer: <A href="mailto:peggy.deamer at yale.edu">peggy.deamer at yale.edu</A><BR>> > ><BR>> > > SCHOOL OF FORESTRY & ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Dean, James Gustave Speth: <A href="mailto:gus.speth at yale.edu">gus.speth at yale.edu</A><BR>> > > Assoc. Dean, Academic Affairs, Daniel Esty: <A href="mailto:daniel.esty at yale.edu">daniel.esty at yale.edu</A><BR>> > ><BR>> > > It's a start and maybe you can open eyes where I was too unimportant to?<BR>> >:-)))<BR>> > > Good Luck,<BR>> > > Mafi Stock<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > At 10/5/2001 10:27 AM -0700, you wrote:<BR>> > > > > Does anyone know of an acredited "School of Architecture" that<BR>> >provides<BR>> > > >the<BR>> > > > > type of research found within this Sustainable Architecture<BR>> >Community?<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > > Gregori Robinson<BR>> > > > > Creative Director<BR>> > > > > ArtNouveau.ws<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > > > > From: Vicki and David Wicker <<A href="mailto:macmastr at cswnet.com">macmastr at cswnet.com</A>><BR>> > > > > To: Charmaine R Taylor <<A href="mailto:tms at northcoast.com">tms at northcoast.com</A>>; Patrick Newberry<BR>> > > > > <<A href="mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org">PNewberry at HFHI.org</A>><BR>> > > > > Cc: <<A href="mailto:coblist at deatech.com">coblist at deatech.com</A>><BR>> > > > > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:20 AM<BR>> > > > > Subject: Re: Cob: mixing cob/clay was: poor & new<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > > > Charmaine<BR>> > > > > > I am considering the paper cob as an infill for a post and beam<BR>> >framed<BR>> > > > > > house. But am wanting to then wrap the whole thing with one or two<BR>> >inch<BR>> > > > > > rigid foam in order to have insulation around the framing. The<BR>> >exterior<BR>> > > > > > shell of insulation was recommended in THE PASSIVE SOLAR HOUSE as<BR>> > > >critical<BR>> > > > > > to efficient heating and cooling. I am wondering if you would want<BR>> >to<BR>> > > >put<BR>> > > > > a<BR>> > > > > > moisture barrier between the padobe in fill and the insulation. I<BR>> >was<BR>> > > >also<BR>> > > > > > considering putting wood slats on the outside and attaching the foam<BR>> >to<BR>> > > > > that<BR>> > > > > > so as to create an air space. "Breathable" keeps coming up in<BR>> > > >discussions<BR>> > > > > as<BR>> > > > > > important, but I'm not sure I understand that concept.<BR>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > > > > > From: "Charmaine R Taylor" <<A href="mailto:tms at northcoast.com">tms at northcoast.com</A>><BR>> > > > > > To: "Patrick Newberry" <<A href="mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org">PNewberry at HFHI.org</A>><BR>> > > > > > Cc: <<A href="mailto:coblist at deatech.com">coblist at deatech.com</A>><BR>> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:52 PM<BR>> > > > > > Subject: Re: Cob: mixing cob/clay was: poor & new<BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > > cob is actually 1/4 R per inch..it is mass not thermal.<BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > > sound like she has "enough" as Joe Dominguez (your money or your<BR>> >life<BR>> > > > > > > fame) said.<BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > > Best bet for some heat is to make light straw clay or<BR>> >woodchip/sawdust<BR>> > > > > > > clay tamped between forms, as Ken Kern promoted, and as the<BR>> >germans do<BR>> > > > > > > nmow. This is my favorite technique in addtion to earth bag as<BR>> >just<BR>> > > >some<BR>> > > > > > > mixing is done and the mix is poured and lightly tamped into<BR>> >place.<BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > > as you all may know I use a 1950s wringer washer as a mixer, and<BR>> >mix<BR>> > > > > > > paper clay lime, sawdust, other fibers to make a good thick or<BR>> >thin<BR>> > > > > > > material for MANY uses..right now it's sculpted and formed pottery<BR>> >and<BR>> > > > > > > garden stuff..stepping sones, fill in gor a slope are ( used Mt St<BR>> > > > > > > helen's ash & lime & clay with coffee grain sized sawdust to make<BR>> >a<BR>> > > > > > > poured step off, holding up great..except for the bear paw print<BR>> >and<BR>> > > > > > > racoon print the first night!! no kidding..now I look twice when I<BR>> > > >step<BR>> > > > > > > outside after dark for 'ole bear)<BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > > in any case, I ramble..wringer washer is a GREAT agitaor to mke<BR>> >the<BR>> > > >clay<BR>> > > > > > > slip and also for the fiber mixing, will try chopped straw soon.<BR>> >best<BR>> > > > > > > part is that you can make a wetter mix then let sit a few days, or<BR>> > > > > > > remove and let drain/dry up a bit to get a thick malleable dough<BR>> >easy<BR>> > > > > > > for shaping.)<BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > > Pics of the mixer ( I named him Dewey, are at the site below)<BR>> > > > > > > Ms. Charmaine Taylor/ Taylor Publishing<BR>> > > > > > > <A href="http://www.dirtcheapbuilder.com">http://www.dirtcheapbuilder.com</A><BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> <BR>> </FONT></BODY></HTML>
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