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Cob: A Proposal for YaleGregori Robinson robinson at on.aibn.comSat Oct 6 15:08:23 PDT 2001
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C14E78.BE093100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mafi, Dear Mafi, I think the best approach on this is to strike a committee within the = University community and formally invite someone such as myself to = facilitate the process of developing a program. As an environmental = art consultants, our feeling is that if properly approached, Yale, or = any progressive university would embrace such a project. =20 The area of interest that we have been pursuing is 3-D modeling for = organic form in architecture. The potential of this is beyond = imagination as the G-Code Files can be scaled and manipulated within the = software and then outputed to CNC routers, laser cutters and milling = machines I have a CNC Router within ArtNouveau.ws and would be able to = provide prototypes for the proposal.=20 The objectives are three fold: 1. Creating a forum for artists and sculptures to be involved in the = design process of architecture. =20 2. Inviting Environmental consultants the opportunity to reach their = highest potential. 3 Provide a forum for Artists, Environmental Consultants, Computer = Science Experts, and Instructors of Architecture to interface. The = results would be the realization of a truly prime example of Sustainable = Architecture. The program would provide opportunity for the students to be involved in = every aspect of the project from modeling the originals in clay to = scanning the models, creating designs on 3-D Modeling Software to = working the CNC routers, to building the project.=20 Our proposal would include a video documentary, as well as assist in = locating the sponsorships. Our research show that funding is readily = available for such an ideal proposal. A quote from Margaret Mead: "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can = change the world, indeed it's the only thing that ever has" Gregori Robinson Creative Director ArtNouveau.ws ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mafalda Stock <mafalda.stock at yale.edu> To: Gregori Robinson <robinson at on.aibn.com> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 2:25 PM Subject: Re: Cob: Fw: Organic Architecture and Universities > God, Gregori, I'd give my back teeth to see something progressive = taking=20 > place instead of that veneer of interest in the environment. Could we = ever=20 > do with it in this area! Good luck, in fact, the best of luck! > Mafi >=20 > At 10/5/2001 03:23 PM -0700, you wrote: > >Thanks for the lead, will contact them and keep you posted! > > > >Gregori > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Mafalda Stock <mafalda.stock at yale.edu> > >To: Gregori Robinson <robinson at on.aibn.com> > >Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:16 AM > >Subject: Re: Cob: Fw: Organic Architecture and Universities > > > > > > > Great question, and the answer from me is, alas, NOT at Yale. I = have been > > > trying to fire interest in what we are trying to do with the = School of > > > Forestry, but nothing substantive has come of it. It takes so = long to get > > > people interested in what's good for the world.... > > > > > > BUT, here's an idea: Would YOU like to ask these people as though = you are > > > just trying to find out? Maybe if they hear from someone on the = outside > >it > > > would sink in better? > > > SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE > > > Dean, Robert A. Stern: robert.a.stern at yale.edu > > > Assoc. Dean, John Jacobson: john.jacobson at yale.edu > > > Assoc. Dean, Margaret Deamer: peggy.deamer at yale.edu > > > > > > SCHOOL OF FORESTRY & ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES > > > > > > Dean, James Gustave Speth: gus.speth at yale.edu > > > Assoc. Dean, Academic Affairs, Daniel Esty: daniel.esty at yale.edu > > > > > > It's a start and maybe you can open eyes where I was too = unimportant to? > >:-))) > > > Good Luck, > > > Mafi Stock > > > > > > > > > At 10/5/2001 10:27 AM -0700, you wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know of an acredited "School of Architecture" that > >provides > > > >the > > > > > type of research found within this Sustainable Architecture > >Community? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gregori Robinson > > > > > Creative Director > > > > > ArtNouveau.ws > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Vicki and David Wicker <macmastr at cswnet.com> > > > > > To: Charmaine R Taylor <tms at northcoast.com>; Patrick Newberry > > > > > <PNewberry at HFHI.org> > > > > > Cc: <coblist at deatech.com> > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:20 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: Cob: mixing cob/clay was: poor & new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charmaine > > > > > > I am considering the paper cob as an infill for a post and = beam > >framed > > > > > > house. But am wanting to then wrap the whole thing with one = or two > >inch > > > > > > rigid foam in order to have insulation around the framing. = The > >exterior > > > > > > shell of insulation was recommended in THE PASSIVE SOLAR = HOUSE as > > > >critical > > > > > > to efficient heating and cooling. I am wondering if you = would want > >to > > > >put > > > > > a > > > > > > moisture barrier between the padobe in fill and the = insulation. I > >was > > > >also > > > > > > considering putting wood slats on the outside and attaching = the foam > >to > > > > > that > > > > > > so as to create an air space. "Breathable" keeps coming up = in > > > >discussions > > > > > as > > > > > > important, but I'm not sure I understand that concept. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Charmaine R Taylor" <tms at northcoast.com> > > > > > > To: "Patrick Newberry" <PNewberry at HFHI.org> > > > > > > Cc: <coblist at deatech.com> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:52 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: Cob: mixing cob/clay was: poor & new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cob is actually 1/4 R per inch..it is mass not thermal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sound like she has "enough" as Joe Dominguez (your money = or your > >life > > > > > > > fame) said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best bet for some heat is to make light straw clay or > >woodchip/sawdust > > > > > > > clay tamped between forms, as Ken Kern promoted, and as = the > >germans do > > > > > > > nmow. This is my favorite technique in addtion to earth = bag as > >just > > > >some > > > > > > > mixing is done and the mix is poured and lightly tamped = into > >place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as you all may know I use a 1950s wringer washer as a = mixer, and > >mix > > > > > > > paper clay lime, sawdust, other fibers to make a good = thick or > >thin > > > > > > > material for MANY uses..right now it's sculpted and formed = pottery > >and > > > > > > > garden stuff..stepping sones, fill in gor a slope are ( = used Mt St > > > > > > > helen's ash & lime & clay with coffee grain sized sawdust = to make > >a > > > > > > > poured step off, holding up great..except for the bear paw = print > >and > > > > > > > racoon print the first night!! no kidding..now I look = twice when I > > > >step > > > > > > > outside after dark for 'ole bear) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in any case, I ramble..wringer washer is a GREAT agitaor = to mke > >the > > > >clay > > > > > > > slip and also for the fiber mixing, will try chopped straw = soon. > >best > > > > > > > part is that you can make a wetter mix then let sit a few = days, or > > > > > > > remove and let drain/dry up a bit to get a thick malleable = dough > >easy > > > > > > > for shaping.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pics of the mixer ( I named him Dewey, are at the site = below) > > > > > > > Ms. Charmaine Taylor/ Taylor Publishing > > > > > > > http://www.dirtcheapbuilder.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C14E78.BE093100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mafi,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Mafi,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think the best approach on this is to = strike a=20 committee within the University community and formally invite someone=20 </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>such as myself to</FONT><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2> facilitate the process of developing a = program. As an=20 environmental art consultants, our feeling is that if properly = approached,=20 Yale, or any progressive university would embrace such a=20 project. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The area of interest that we have been = pursuing is=20 3-D modeling for organic form in architecture. The potential of this is = beyond=20 imagination as the G-Code Files can be scaled and manipulated within the = software and then outputed to CNC routers, laser cutters and milling = machines I=20 have a CNC Router within ArtNouveau.ws and would be able to = provide=20 prototypes for the proposal. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The objectives are three = fold:</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. Creating a forum for artists = and=20 sculptures to be involved in the design process of architecture. =20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. Inviting Environmental = consultants the=20 opportunity to reach their highest potential.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3 Provide a forum for Artists, = Environmental=20 Consultants, Computer Science Experts, </FONT><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>and=20 Instructors of Architecture to interface. The results would be the = realization of a truly prime example of Sustainable = Architecture.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The program would provide opportunity = for the=20 students to be involved in every aspect of the project from modeling the = originals in clay to scanning the models, creating designs on 3-D = Modeling=20 Software to working the CNC routers, to building the project. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Our proposal would include a video = documentary, as=20 well as assist in locating the sponsorships. Our research show = that=20 funding is readily available for such an ideal proposal.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A quote from Margaret = Mead:</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><U>"Never doubt that a small group of = thoughtful,=20 committed citizens can change<BR>the world, indeed it's the only thing = that ever=20 has"</U></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gregori Robinson<BR>Creative=20 Director<BR>ArtNouveau.ws</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: Mafalda Stock <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:mafalda.stock at yale.edu">mafalda.stock at yale.edu</A>></FO= NT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: Gregori Robinson <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:robinson at on.aibn.com">robinson at on.aibn.com</A>></FONT><= /DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 2:25 = PM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: Re: Cob: Fw: Organic = Architecture and=20 Universities</FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> God, Gregori, I'd give = my back teeth=20 to see something progressive taking <BR>> place instead of that = veneer of=20 interest in the environment. Could we ever <BR>> do with it in = this=20 area! Good luck, in fact, the best of luck!<BR>> Mafi<BR>> = <BR>>=20 At 10/5/2001 03:23 PM -0700, you wrote:<BR>> >Thanks for the lead, = will=20 contact them and keep you posted!<BR>> ><BR>> = >Gregori<BR>>=20 ><BR>> ><BR>> >----- Original Message -----<BR>> = >From:=20 Mafalda Stock <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:mafalda.stock at yale.edu">mafalda.stock at yale.edu</A>><BR>= >=20 >To: Gregori Robinson <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:robinson at on.aibn.com">robinson at on.aibn.com</A>><BR>>= =20 >Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:16 AM<BR>> >Subject: Re: = Cob: Fw:=20 Organic Architecture and Universities<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> = >=20 > Great question, and the answer from me is, alas, NOT at Yale. = I have=20 been<BR>> > > trying to fire interest in what we are trying to = do with=20 the School of<BR>> > > Forestry, but nothing substantive has = come of=20 it. It takes so long to get<BR>> > > people interested in = what's=20 good for the world....<BR>> > ><BR>> > > BUT, here's = an=20 idea: Would YOU like to ask these people as though you are<BR>> = >=20 > just trying to find out? Maybe if they hear from someone on = the=20 outside<BR>> >it<BR>> > > would sink in better?<BR>> = > >=20 SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE<BR>> > > Dean, Robert A. Stern: <A=20 href=3D"mailto:robert.a.stern at yale.edu">robert.a.stern at yale.edu</A><BR>&g= t; >=20 > Assoc. Dean, John Jacobson: <A=20 href=3D"mailto:john.jacobson at yale.edu">john.jacobson at yale.edu</A><BR>>= >=20 > Assoc. Dean, Margaret Deamer: <A=20 href=3D"mailto:peggy.deamer at yale.edu">peggy.deamer at yale.edu</A><BR>> = >=20 ><BR>> > > SCHOOL OF FORESTRY & ENVIRONMENTAL = STUDIES<BR>>=20 > ><BR>> > > Dean, James Gustave Speth: <A=20 href=3D"mailto:gus.speth at yale.edu">gus.speth at yale.edu</A><BR>> > = > Assoc.=20 Dean, Academic Affairs, Daniel Esty: <A=20 href=3D"mailto:daniel.esty at yale.edu">daniel.esty at yale.edu</A><BR>> = >=20 ><BR>> > > It's a start and maybe you can open eyes where I = was too=20 unimportant to?<BR>> >:-)))<BR>> > > Good Luck,<BR>> = > >=20 Mafi Stock<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > At = 10/5/2001=20 10:27 AM -0700, you wrote:<BR>> > > > > Does anyone know = of an=20 acredited "School of Architecture" that<BR>> >provides<BR>> = > >=20 >the<BR>> > > > > type of research found within = this =20 Sustainable Architecture<BR>> >Community?<BR>> > > >=20 ><BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > > Gregori=20 Robinson<BR>> > > > > Creative Director<BR>> > > = >=20 > ArtNouveau.ws<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > >=20 ><BR>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> = > >=20 > > From: Vicki and David Wicker <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:macmastr at cswnet.com">macmastr at cswnet.com</A>><BR>> = > >=20 > > To: Charmaine R Taylor <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:tms at northcoast.com">tms at northcoast.com</A>>; Patrick=20 Newberry<BR>> > > > > <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org">PNewberry at HFHI.org</A>><BR>> = > >=20 > > Cc: <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:coblist at deatech.com">coblist at deatech.com</A>><BR>> = > >=20 > > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:20 AM<BR>> > > > = >=20 Subject: Re: Cob: mixing cob/clay was: poor & new<BR>> > > = >=20 ><BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > > >=20 Charmaine<BR>> > > > > > I am considering the paper = cob as an=20 infill for a post and beam<BR>> >framed<BR>> > > > = > >=20 house. But am wanting to then wrap the whole thing with one or = two<BR>>=20 >inch<BR>> > > > > > rigid foam in order to have = insulation=20 around the framing. The<BR>> >exterior<BR>> > > > > = >=20 shell of insulation was recommended in THE PASSIVE SOLAR HOUSE = as<BR>> >=20 > >critical<BR>> > > > > > to efficient heating = and=20 cooling. I am wondering if you would want<BR>> >to<BR>> > = >=20 >put<BR>> > > > > a<BR>> > > > > > = moisture=20 barrier between the padobe in fill and the insulation. I<BR>> = >was<BR>>=20 > > >also<BR>> > > > > > considering putting = wood=20 slats on the outside and attaching the foam<BR>> >to<BR>> > = >=20 > > that<BR>> > > > > > so as to create an air = space.=20 "Breathable" keeps coming up in<BR>> > > = >discussions<BR>> >=20 > > > as<BR>> > > > > > important, but I'm = not sure I=20 understand that concept.<BR>> > > > > > ----- Original = Message=20 -----<BR>> > > > > > From: "Charmaine R Taylor" <<A = href=3D"mailto:tms at northcoast.com">tms at northcoast.com</A>><BR>> = > >=20 > > > To: "Patrick Newberry" <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org">PNewberry at HFHI.org</A>><BR>> = > >=20 > > > Cc: <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:coblist at deatech.com">coblist at deatech.com</A>><BR>> = > >=20 > > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:52 PM<BR>> > = > >=20 > > Subject: Re: Cob: mixing cob/clay was: poor & new<BR>> = >=20 > > > ><BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > = > >=20 > > cob is actually 1/4 R per inch..it is mass not = thermal.<BR>> >=20 > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > > sound = like she=20 has "enough" as Joe Dominguez (your money or your<BR>> = >life<BR>> >=20 > > > > > fame) said.<BR>> > > > > >=20 ><BR>> > > > > > > Best bet for some heat is to = make=20 light straw clay or<BR>> >woodchip/sawdust<BR>> > > > = >=20 > > clay tamped between forms, as Ken Kern promoted, and as = the<BR>>=20 >germans do<BR>> > > > > > > nmow. This is my = favorite=20 technique in addtion to earth bag as<BR>> >just<BR>> > >=20 >some<BR>> > > > > > > mixing is done and the = mix is=20 poured and lightly tamped into<BR>> >place.<BR>> > > > = >=20 > ><BR>> > > > > > > as you all may know I = use a=20 1950s wringer washer as a mixer, and<BR>> >mix<BR>> > > = > >=20 > > paper clay lime, sawdust, other fibers to make a good thick = or<BR>>=20 >thin<BR>> > > > > > > material for MANY = uses..right now=20 it's sculpted and formed pottery<BR>> >and<BR>> > > > = >=20 > > garden stuff..stepping sones, fill in gor a slope are ( used = Mt=20 St<BR>> > > > > > > helen's ash & lime & = clay with=20 coffee grain sized sawdust to make<BR>> >a<BR>> > > > = >=20 > > poured step off, holding up great..except for the bear paw=20 print<BR>> >and<BR>> > > > > > > racoon print = the=20 first night!! no kidding..now I look twice when I<BR>> > >=20 >step<BR>> > > > > > > outside after dark for = 'ole=20 bear)<BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > > > = >=20 > in any case, I ramble..wringer washer is a GREAT agitaor to = mke<BR>>=20 >the<BR>> > > >clay<BR>> > > > > > > = slip=20 and also for the fiber mixing, will try chopped straw soon.<BR>>=20 >best<BR>> > > > > > > part is that you can make = a=20 wetter mix then let sit a few days, or<BR>> > > > > > = >=20 remove and let drain/dry up a bit to get a thick malleable dough<BR>> = >easy<BR>> > > > > > > for shaping.)<BR>> = > >=20 > > > ><BR>> > > > > > > Pics of the = mixer ( I=20 named him Dewey, are at the site below)<BR>> > > > > > = >=20 Ms. Charmaine Taylor/ Taylor Publishing<BR>> > > > = > >=20 > <A=20 href=3D"http://www.dirtcheapbuilder.com">http://www.dirtcheapbuilder.com<= /A><BR>>=20 > > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > = ><BR>> >=20 > > > > ><BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> = > >=20 > > > ><BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > = > >=20 > > ><BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > > = >=20 ><BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > > = ><BR>> >=20 ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> <BR>> = </FONT></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C14E78.BE093100--
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