Cob: RE: RE: Mud Hut

Thu Jan 16 10:18:34 PST 2003

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RE: Mud HutYes,

Joseph Campbell can illustrate the path for anyone.  Another good read of
his is "The Hero with a Thousand Faces"

What we must learn is how to merge our current knowledge and technology with
the balance of the past.  There is no reason why one cannot have both.
Build with cob, use alternative energy, and still surf the net in the
afternoon.  Actually, the best example is this list.  A discussion of like
minds that spans continents, but the subject matter is over 10,000 years
old.

My girlfriend and I are building a self-sustainable home nessled in the
mountains of the Chihuahuan desert.  We are building out of cob and stone
(both readily available)and including the standard gridless setup (ie..
rainwater catchment, solar and wind energy, passive solar design, etc).  We
are also including modern conveniences like High speed satellite internet
access, propane refrigeration, electric lights, etc.

Anything is possible.  Just focus your thoughts and energy on what needs to
be accomplished, and then look and what you lack.  If done in the right
frame of mind, you will never lack anything.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]On
Behalf Of Ben Harrison
  Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:42 AM
  To: 'sarah kercheval'; coblist at deatech.com
  Subject: Cob: RE: Mud Hut

  I happen to own this book. I picked it up from Borders books several
months
  ago. It really is a great book. It's pretty much the only comprehensive
book
  I've been able to find on "primative architecture" of any kind. I would
highly
  recommend it to anyone interested in such things. I thoroughly agree with
Sarah's
  sentiments. There used to be a balance between man and nature. When I look
at what
  the world has become and the world that the native Americans thrived in,
their world
  looks quite utopian by comparison. It was only when man put himself above
nature
  (rather than a humble piece within nature) that the slow but steady march
toward this
  mess that we have now began. You could blame it on the rise of the
Europeans(of which I'm decended)
  but it really goes back to the birth of the the Judao-Christian religions.
There was
  a time when my ancestors in Europe lived much like the native Americans.
Yes, like it or not,
  religion and science are both equally to blame for the dead end road we
find ourselves racing down.
  The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell is another great book I would
recommend.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: sarah kercheval [mailto:hi_eagle at hotmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:15 AM
  To: coblist at deatech.com
  Subject: Cob: Mud Hut

  Yes, I agree, just call it what it is, and be proud!
  Check out a really great book called Native American Architecture, the
next
  time you're at the library.  It is a great resource of natural buildings
  that populated our landscape not too long ago.  We are looking to pruchase
  this book in the future to reinforce our proof that what you live in is
not
  as important as HOW you live, ie, safe healthy, eco concious living
  structures.
  The proof positive that these structures are superior, is in the fact that
  they no longer can be seen standing in most places.  They are gentler and
  kinder to the earth in that they go back to it when their time is over.
  This is in itself natural.
  Sarah

  >From: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net>
  >Reply-To: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net>
  >To: coblist at deatech.com
  >Subject: RE: Cob: adobe/cob Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:20:36 -0600
  >
  >Everytime I mention these concepts to someone who is not 'into natural
  >building', they cut across all of our carefully worded definitions and
  >exclaim, "Are you REALLY going to build a MUD HUT?".  Since I have
planned
  >an amalgamation(sp?) of methods from the beginning, I have quit fighting
  >and just answer, "Yep.  Got a problem with that?".
  >
  >;)
  >Neana
  >PS: Very punny, Matt!

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years=20
old.</DIV>
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<DIV>My=20
girlfriend and I are building a self-sustainable home nessled in the =
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<DIV><SPAN=20
class=3D820181118-16012003>Anything is possible.&nbsp; Just focus your =
thoughts=20
and energy on what needs to be accomplished, and then look and what you=20
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 <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>-----Original Message----- From: =
owner-coblist at deatech.com=20
 [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]On Behalf Of Ben=20
 Harrison Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:42 =
AM To:=20
 'sarah kercheval'; coblist at deatech.com Subject: Cob: RE: Mud =

Hut </DIV>
 I happen to own this book. I picked it up from =
Borders books=20
 several months ago. It really is a great =
book. It's=20
 pretty much the only comprehensive book I've =
been able=20
 to find on "primative architecture" of any kind. I would highly=20
 recommend it to anyone interested in such =
things. I=20
 thoroughly agree with Sarah's sentiments. =
There used=20
 to be a balance between man and nature. When I look at what =
 <FONT=20
 size=3D2>the world has become and the world that the native Americans =
thrived=20
 in, their world looks quite utopian by =
comparison. It=20
 was only when man put himself above nature (rather=20
 than a humble piece within nature) that the slow but steady march =
toward this=20
 mess that we have now began. You could blame =
it on the=20
 rise of the Europeans(of which I'm decended) but it=20
 really goes back to the birth of the the Judao-Christian religions. =
There=20
 was a time when my ancestors in Europe lived =
much like=20
 the native Americans. Yes, like it or not, religion=20
 and science are both equally to blame for the dead end road we find =
ourselves=20
 racing down. The Power of Myth by Joseph =
Campbell is=20
 another great book I would recommend.&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 -----Original Message----- From: sarah=20
 kercheval [<A=20
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 Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:15 AM =
 <FONT=20
 size=3D2>To: coblist at deatech.com Subject: =
Cob: Mud=20
 Hut 
 Yes, I agree, just call it what it is, and be =
proud!=20
 Check out a really great book called Native =
American=20
 Architecture, the next time you're at the=20
 library.&nbsp; It is a great resource of natural buildings =
 <FONT=20
 size=3D2>that populated our landscape not too long ago.&nbsp; We are =
looking to=20
 pruchase this book in the future to =
reinforce our=20
 proof that what you live in is not as =
important as HOW=20
 you live, ie, safe healthy, eco concious living <FONT=20
 size=3D2>structures. The proof positive that =
these=20
 structures are superior, is in the fact that they no=20
 longer can be seen standing in most places.&nbsp; They are gentler and =

  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>kinder to the earth in that they go back to =
it when=20
  their time is over.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>This is in itself =
natural.</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>Sarah</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>&gt;From: "neana" =
&lt;neana at terraworld.net&gt;</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;Reply-To: "neana" =
&lt;neana at terraworld.net&gt;</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;To: coblist at deatech.com</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt;Subject: RE: Cob: adobe/cob Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 =
09:20:36=20
  -0600</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;Everytime I=20
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</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt;building', they cut across all of our carefully worded =
definitions=20
  and </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;exclaim, "Are you REALLY going to =
build a MUD=20
  HUT?".&nbsp; Since I have planned </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;an=20
  amalgamation(sp?) of methods from the beginning, I have quit fighting=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;and just answer, "Yep.&nbsp; Got a =
problem with=20
  that?".</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;;)</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;Neana</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;PS: Very =
punny,=20
  Matt!</FONT> </P><BR>
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little=20
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