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Neana neana at terraworld.net
Thu Jan 16 11:23:00 PST 2003 

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RE: Mud HutHas anybody read any of Daniel Quinn's Ishmael series.  =
Extremely thought-provoking.  Slightly off-topic as far as building, but =
not as far as alternative lifestyles.
Neana


----- Original Message -----=20
From: Abe Connally=20
To: coblist at deatech.com=20
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:18 PM
Subject: Cob: RE: RE: Mud Hut


Yes,

Joseph Campbell can illustrate the path for anyone.  Another good read =
of his is "The Hero with a Thousand Faces"

What we must learn is how to merge our current knowledge and technology =
with the balance of the past.  There is no reason why one cannot have =
both.  Build with cob, use alternative energy, and still surf the net in =
the afternoon.  Actually, the best example is this list.  A discussion =
of like minds that spans continents, but the subject matter is over =
10,000 years old.

My girlfriend and I are building a self-sustainable home nessled in the =
mountains of the Chihuahuan desert.  We are building out of cob and =
stone (both readily available)and including the standard gridless setup =
(ie.. rainwater catchment, solar and wind energy, passive solar design, =
etc).  We are also including modern conveniences like High speed =
satellite internet access, propane refrigeration, electric lights, etc.

Anything is possible.  Just focus your thoughts and energy on what needs =
to be accomplished, and then look and what you lack.  If done in the =
right frame of mind, you will never lack anything.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]On =
Behalf Of Ben Harrison
  Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:42 AM
  To: 'sarah kercheval'; coblist at deatech.com
  Subject: Cob: RE: Mud Hut


  I happen to own this book. I picked it up from Borders books several =
months=20
  ago. It really is a great book. It's pretty much the only =
comprehensive book=20
  I've been able to find on "primative architecture" of any kind. I =
would highly=20
  recommend it to anyone interested in such things. I thoroughly agree =
with Sarah's=20
  sentiments. There used to be a balance between man and nature. When I =
look at what=20
  the world has become and the world that the native Americans thrived =
in, their world=20
  looks quite utopian by comparison. It was only when man put himself =
above nature=20
  (rather than a humble piece within nature) that the slow but steady =
march toward this=20
  mess that we have now began. You could blame it on the rise of the =
Europeans(of which I'm decended)=20
  but it really goes back to the birth of the the Judao-Christian =
religions. There was=20
  a time when my ancestors in Europe lived much like the native =
Americans. Yes, like it or not,=20
  religion and science are both equally to blame for the dead end road =
we find ourselves racing down.=20
  The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell is another great book I would =
recommend.  =20

  -----Original Message-----=20
  From: sarah kercheval [mailto:hi_eagle at hotmail.com]=20
  Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:15 AM=20
  To: coblist at deatech.com=20
  Subject: Cob: Mud Hut=20



  Yes, I agree, just call it what it is, and be proud!=20
  Check out a really great book called Native American Architecture, the =
next=20
  time you're at the library.  It is a great resource of natural =
buildings=20
  that populated our landscape not too long ago.  We are looking to =
pruchase=20
  this book in the future to reinforce our proof that what you live in =
is not=20
  as important as HOW you live, ie, safe healthy, eco concious living=20
  structures.=20
  The proof positive that these structures are superior, is in the fact =
that=20
  they no longer can be seen standing in most places.  They are gentler =
and=20
  kinder to the earth in that they go back to it when their time is =
over.=20
  This is in itself natural.=20
  Sarah=20



  >From: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net>=20
  >Reply-To: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net>=20
  >To: coblist at deatech.com=20
  >Subject: RE: Cob: adobe/cob Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:20:36 -0600=20
  >=20
  >Everytime I mention these concepts to someone who is not 'into =
natural=20
  >building', they cut across all of our carefully worded definitions =
and=20
  >exclaim, "Are you REALLY going to build a MUD HUT?".  Since I have =
planned=20
  >an amalgamation(sp?) of methods from the beginning, I have quit =
fighting=20
  >and just answer, "Yep.  Got a problem with that?".=20
  >=20
  >;)=20
  >Neana=20
  >PS: Very punny, Matt!=20



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Has anybody read any of Daniel Quinn's =
Ishmael=20
series.&nbsp; Extremely thought-provoking.&nbsp;&nbsp;Slightly off-topic =
as far=20
as building, but not as far as alternative lifestyles.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Neana</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dabe at abeconnally.com href=3D"mailto:abe at abeconnally.com">Abe =
Connally</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcoblist at deatech.com=20
href=3D"mailto:coblist at deatech.com">coblist at deatech.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:18 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Cob: RE: RE: Mud Hut</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D820181118-16012003>Yes,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D820181118-16012003>Joseph=20
Campbell can illustrate the path for anyone.&nbsp; Another good read of =
his is=20
"The Hero with a Thousand Faces"</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D820181118-16012003>What=20
we must learn is how to merge our current knowledge and =
technology&nbsp;with the=20
balance of the past.&nbsp; There is no reason why one cannot have =
both.&nbsp;=20
Build with cob, use alternative energy, and still surf the net in the=20
afternoon.&nbsp; Actually, the best example is this list.&nbsp; A =
discussion of=20
like minds that spans continents, but the subject matter is over 10,000 =
years=20
old.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D820181118-16012003>My=20
girlfriend and I are building a self-sustainable home nessled in the =
mountains=20
of the Chihuahuan desert.&nbsp; We are building out of cob and stone =
(both=20
readily available)and including the standard gridless setup (ie.. =
rainwater=20
catchment, solar and wind energy, passive solar design, etc).&nbsp; We =
are also=20
including modern conveniences like High speed satellite internet access, =
propane=20
refrigeration, electric lights, etc.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D820181118-16012003>Anything is possible.&nbsp; Just focus your =
thoughts=20
and energy on what needs to be accomplished, and then look and what you=20
lack.&nbsp; If done in the right frame of mind, you will never lack=20
anything.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
owner-coblist at deatech.com=20
  [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ben=20
  Harrison<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:42 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  'sarah kercheval'; coblist at deatech.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Cob: RE: Mud =

  Hut<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>I happen to own this book. I picked it up from =
Borders books=20
  several months</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>ago. It really is a great =
book. It's=20
  pretty much the only comprehensive book </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>I've =
been able=20
  to find on "primative architecture" of any kind. I would highly=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>recommend it to anyone interested in such =
things. I=20
  thoroughly agree with Sarah's</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>sentiments. =
There used=20
  to be a balance between man and nature. When I look at what =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>the world has become and the world that the native Americans =
thrived=20
  in, their world </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>looks quite utopian by =
comparison. It=20
  was only when man put himself above nature</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>(rather=20
  than a humble piece within nature) that the slow but steady march =
toward this=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>mess that we have now began. You could blame =
it on the=20
  rise of the Europeans(of which I'm decended)</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>but it=20
  really goes back to the birth of the the Judao-Christian religions. =
There=20
  was</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>a time when my ancestors in Europe lived =
much like=20
  the native Americans. Yes, like it or not, </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>religion=20
  and science are both equally to blame for the dead end road we find =
ourselves=20
  racing down.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>The Power of Myth by Joseph =
Campbell is=20
  another great book I would recommend.&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From: sarah=20
  kercheval [<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:hi_eagle at hotmail.com">mailto:hi_eagle at hotmail.com</A>]</FO=
NT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:15 AM</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>To: coblist at deatech.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Subject: =
Cob: Mud=20
  Hut</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>Yes, I agree, just call it what it is, and be =
proud!</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>Check out a really great book called Native =
American=20
  Architecture, the next </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>time you're at the=20
  library.&nbsp; It is a great resource of natural buildings =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>that populated our landscape not too long ago.&nbsp; We are =
looking to=20
  pruchase </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>this book in the future to =
reinforce our=20
  proof that what you live in is not </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>as =
important as HOW=20
  you live, ie, safe healthy, eco concious living </FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>structures.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>The proof positive that =
these=20
  structures are superior, is in the fact that </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>they no=20
  longer can be seen standing in most places.&nbsp; They are gentler and =

  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>kinder to the earth in that they go back to =
it when=20
  their time is over.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>This is in itself =
natural.</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>Sarah</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>&gt;From: "neana" =
&lt;neana at terraworld.net&gt;</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;Reply-To: "neana" =
&lt;neana at terraworld.net&gt;</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;To: coblist at deatech.com</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt;Subject: RE: Cob: adobe/cob Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 =
09:20:36=20
  -0600</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;Everytime I=20
  mention these concepts to someone who is not 'into natural =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt;building', they cut across all of our carefully worded =
definitions=20
  and </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;exclaim, "Are you REALLY going to =
build a MUD=20
  HUT?".&nbsp; Since I have planned </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;an=20
  amalgamation(sp?) of methods from the beginning, I have quit fighting=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;and just answer, "Yep.&nbsp; Got a =
problem with=20
  that?".</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;;)</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;Neana</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;PS: Very =
punny,=20
  Matt!</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>Custom Waldorf Dolls available for you or a special =
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