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[Cob] RE: SustainabilityRob Hayes editable7 at yahoo.comMon Oct 24 15:35:46 CDT 2005
You know I'm glad you didn't take "the fifth" Mary Lou, but be careful when planning to be torn apart. That planning for failure thing comes in to play. I like your notion of "each one teaches one" and avoiding too many seminars seems a likable enough notion too. I'm thinking of all the millions who were recently homeless due to all the storms and EQEQ'srom here to Pakistan. I'm just about ready to hit the road to go and build some cob "chicken houses" just to show off how small ststructuresould be done. The building codes here might not allow what I'd accept as housing, but I'm ready to talk about the chickens & while I'm waiting for them to be delivered - just move in. This brings up "thriving skills" as being prpreferableo "survival skills". You might very well be able to make your life happen here with your non-dominant foot most days. After we're done counting and covering the dead, after some tragedy, cooperative skills have continually emerged and endured. Check out more cooperative projects and poponderingsike those from: hthttp/wwwwwmsmartmobsom/archive/cat_alalwaysonapanopticonorooperation_amplifier.hthtml "Smart mobs emerge when communication and computing technologies amplify human talents for cooperation. The impacts of smart mob technology already appear to be both beneficial and destructive, used by some of its earliest adopters to support democracy and by others to coordinate terrorist attacks. The technologies that are beginning to make smart mobs possible are mobile communication devices and pervasive computing - inexpensive microprocessors embedded in everyday objects and environments. Already, governments have fallen, youth subcultures have blossomed from Asia to Scandinavia, new industries have been born and older industries have launched furious counterattacks." I might not be considered "dregs" but I've been in that situation where I couldn't afford the bus fare out of town before the storm hit too, just like alalotf folks in NOLA before Katrina and elsewhere. Without our cooperative tip we might not know where & when to go next. Some happy practice might lead us down the road well enough. Isn't that why the world is round and you can't see the end of the road you're on? It seems as if UmUmatilland Morrow Counties in eastern Oregon as well as part of Benton County in the State of Washington might be a good place to build a few cob chicken houses. The ininternetccess might still be free there for a while. Check this out at: hthttp/wwwwwmsmartmobsom/archive/2005/10/22/_nearly_700_sqsquthtmlJust make sure your mud has drainage and an overhang. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:52:27 -0500 From: "Mary Lou McFarland" <lolouiethefifthohotmailom> Subject: [Cob] RE: Sustainability To: CoCoblistedeatechom I hadn't checked my e-mail for several days and was surprised at the course of events on the sustainability issue. No matter how we feel about a topic, I think it is important that we remember there is a human being on the other end of that posting. Everybody has bad days or haven't been exposed to another side of an issue, but that is no cause for blasting them. This should be a safe place to set forth ideas, projects and poponderings..no egos allowed. If it were such a place than I think we would have a much more lively interaction than we do. So, with that in mind, here's my thought for the day... Things haven't improved much around here and I have given up hope on ever making it to any cob workshops as they are usually on the coasts or Mayne island. I also think that in the current political climate, survival skills are of the utmost importance, especially considering that at last count there were over 11,000 dead in New Orleans. In the event of a tragedy, I know it will be up to me to take care of myself. I am one of the dregs of society and no one is going to save me. With that in mind, I try to suck up as much knowledge as I possibly can. It doesn't matter if it is cob, cocordwoodr ststrawbaleetc. because I will have to use what means are at hand. I also think that it is important for other people to have this knowledge, even if they don't use it. for this information to be widespread, we will have to get away from the seminar as the principal method of hands on training. What I would like to see happen is for everyone who knows how to build cob to go 50-100 miles from home and teach a few people how to build and then those few students go 50-100 miles from their home and each one of them teach a few people and on and on until we have networked the country with people who have this rudimentary survival skill. And it isn't enough that we know how to build. It should be common knowledge how to save seed, grow food and preserve it as well as some animal husbandry and how to distill water. I took a business workshop once and one of the big themes was that in order to survive as a business, then you must plan for failure as well as success. I apply it to every facet of my life and it has saved me more than once. There it is , I'm done. and anyone who wants to tear me apart may do so. ------------------------------ __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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