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[Cob] OT - re: Deep South/Old South

Thomas H. Harbold tharbold at qis.net
Mon Jun 11 19:05:44 CDT 2007


Hmmmm... as a native Marylander, I can certainly see Maryland being  
included in the Old South. We are entirely south of the Mason-Dixon  
line, our climate and culture -- particularly southeast of the Fall  
Line, where the Coastal Plain meets the Piedmont Plateau -- has much  
more in common with Tidewater Virginia than anywhere else. And of  
course, we share with Virginia the largest (and once, the most  
productive) estuary in the country (maybe the world), the magnificent  
Chesapeake Bay!

Historically and socio-politically, Maryland voted not to secede  
during the time of ferment leading up to the War Between the States,  
but in the same vote affirmed the right of States to do so, should  
they decide it to be in their best interests (and implicitly leaving  
open the option that we might so choose, later). That earned the  
arrest of many of our legislators (un-Constitutionally) and the  
camping of a Federal army in Baltimore, on what is now called Federal  
Hill, just to make sure we didn't. So, yes, Maryland is part of the  
Old South.

But Delaware...???

Oh, well, I guess there's the Delmarva Peninsula... but that's a  
stretch.  :-)

Tom

(who never could convince the folks in Tennessee that he wasn't a  
Yankee, when he lived there...)


On Jun 11, 2007, at 7:09 PM, Jon Kerr wrote:

> Here's a quote from the wikipedia entry:
>
> The Deep South is a cultural and geographic subregion of the American
> South, differentiated from the "Old South" as being the post colonial
> expansion of Southern States in the antebellum period. There are
> various definitions of the term:
>
>      * South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, and
> Louisiana (All but NC constituted six of the seven founding members
> of the Confederate States of America)
>      * Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana (From the
> Dictionary of Cultural Literacy)
>      * Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Mississippi (From the
> National Endowment for the Humanities)
>
> The "Deep South" is usually defined in opposition to the Old South
> including South Carolina, Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia,
> Delaware, and often Georgia and also further differentiated from the
> inland border states such as Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, and
> Arkansas and the peripheral southern states of Florida and Texas. The
> Upland South (or Upper South) is another southern region distinct
> from the Deep South. The estimated population of the Deep South as of
> 2007 is around 21,000,000.
>
> Although Florida is geographically the southernmost continental
> state, it is sometimes excluded from contemporary uses of the term
> "Deep South" due to the significant amount of migration into South
> Florida from other regions after World War II.
>
> There's also a map with different shaded areas. Different people
> define the Deep South differently. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Deep_South
>
> Jon
>
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