[Cob] OT - re: Deep South/Old South

[Christopher Reinhart]

I lost the cob thread in here...

On 6/11/07, Thomas H. Harbold <tharbold at qis.net> wrote:
>
> Hmmmm... as a native Marylander, I can certainly see Maryland being
> included in the Old South. We are entirely south of the Mason-Dixon
> line, our climate and culture -- particularly southeast of the Fall
> Line, where the Coastal Plain meets the Piedmont Plateau -- has much
> more in common with Tidewater Virginia than anywhere else. And of
> course, we share with Virginia the largest (and once, the most
> productive) estuary in the country (maybe the world), the magnificent
> Chesapeake Bay!
>
> Historically and socio-politically, Maryland voted not to secede
> during the time of ferment leading up to the War Between the States,
> but in the same vote affirmed the right of States to do so, should
> they decide it to be in their best interests (and implicitly leaving
> open the option that we might so choose, later). That earned the
> arrest of many of our legislators (un-Constitutionally) and the
> camping of a Federal army in Baltimore, on what is now called Federal
> Hill, just to make sure we didn't. So, yes, Maryland is part of the
> Old South.
>
> But Delaware...???
>
> Oh, well, I guess there's the Delmarva Peninsula... but that's a
> stretch.  :-)
>
> Tom
>
> (who never could convince the folks in Tennessee that he wasn't a
> Yankee, when he lived there...)
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2007, at 7:09 PM, Jon Kerr wrote:
>
> > Here's a quote from the wikipedia entry:
> >
> > The Deep South is a cultural and geographic subregion of the American
> > South, differentiated from the "Old South" as being the post colonial
> > expansion of Southern States in the antebellum period. There are
> > various definitions of the term:
> >
> >      * South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, and
> > Louisiana (All but NC constituted six of the seven founding members
> > of the Confederate States of America)
> >      * Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana (From the
> > Dictionary of Cultural Literacy)
> >      * Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Mississippi (From the
> > National Endowment for the Humanities)
> >
> > The "Deep South" is usually defined in opposition to the Old South
> > including South Carolina, Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia,
> > Delaware, and often Georgia and also further differentiated from the
> > inland border states such as Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, and
> > Arkansas and the peripheral southern states of Florida and Texas. The
> > Upland South (or Upper South) is another southern region distinct
> > from the Deep South. The estimated population of the Deep South as of
> > 2007 is around 21,000,000.
> >
> > Although Florida is geographically the southernmost continental
> > state, it is sometimes excluded from contemporary uses of the term
> > "Deep South" due to the significant amount of migration into South
> > Florida from other regions after World War II.
> >
> > There's also a map with different shaded areas. Different people
> > define the Deep South differently. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> > Deep_South
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
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