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[Cob] Coblist Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2

Joe Johnson jrv1 at mindspring.com
Thu Jan 3 07:39:44 CST 2008


   
         Hello,
             I am living in S.C. and cant find anyone who is building cob houses in my home state. I have noticed that there are several in Georgia. Would it be possible for me to come to Georgia and look at these homes? Thanks for any help. Joe 

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>   1. Re;Cob Cottage Update (David Boyer)
>   2. double pane windows (Damon Howell)
>   3. Re: Exterior insulation (Robert Alcock)
>   4. Re: double pane windows (Patrick Newberry)
>   5. Re: Coblist Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 (Dean Sherwin)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 12:01:10 -0800
>From: "David Boyer" <HasteinD at earthlink.net>
>Subject: [Cob] Re;Cob Cottage Update
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>Sarah,
>Thanks for the update...
>Don't have much insight in what redirection might be appropriate for your existing structure.
>For future reference for any potential Oregon cob builder seeking the LEGAL PERMIT ROUTE: seek out Sarah's  Corvallis engineer, who has a history of working with alternative building materials in earthqake regions;AND don't build in Corvallis-DO build in Linn County Oregon, as there is a building inspector there who understands cob construction and will listen to reason and work with you... (My wife and I had intended to use this engineers sevices in Linn County, but our health gave out and this is no longer a possibility for us)
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>David Boyer
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>Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
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>Message: 2
>Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 14:45:18 -0500
>From: Damon Howell <dhowell at pickensprogress.com>
>Subject: [Cob] double pane windows
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>I'd like to put free form windows in my cob cottage. I want to double  
>pane them, but was wondering about condensation buildup in between  
>the panes (like in a broken sliding glass door). I'm in Georgia,  
>which is very humid.
>
>Damon
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>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:17:41 +0100
>From: Robert Alcock <ralcock at euskalnet.net>
>Subject: Re: [Cob] Exterior insulation
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>Ed, I'd be really keen to look at those pictures of Ianto's work. When 
>you say "support surface," do you mean that he's building a half-width 
>straw bale wall first, then plastering it with cob? or is the cob wall 
>built first? Is the cob wall load-bearing, independently of the straw 
>bale? I'm looking at externally-insulated cob wall systems for our house 
>in N Spain that we're starting in the spring (we hope).
>
>Robert
>www.lesspress.com
>> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:30:21 -0500
>> From: <raduazo at cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Cob] Exterior insulation
>> To: "coblist at deatech.com" <coblist at deatech.com>, jwellman at jwgeo.com,
>> 	Unschooler at atlasok.com
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>> Jesse,  Ianto is now using a system where he adds two strings to a two string bale, then chainsaws the bales apart to form two thin bales which he uses as a support surface for building cob. I have pictures, but I am no home so I can't send them.
>>             I am planning on trying a paper/clay system this summer or as soon as the weather gets a little warmer. I will start by soaking bundles of newspaper in a pit for a week or two and then rototilling them into pulp and adding a little clay with my cheap front tine tiller. I will then attempt to build up a 4 inch thick layer of paper/clay on an existing cob wall, possibly using dead-man strips imbedded in the paper/clay.
>>              The paper/clay will then be given a color finish of some sort perhaps lime putty or a colored paper/clay. I am very fond of a red clay from a friends farm in VA.
>> Ed
>> ---- Leslie Moyer <Unschooler at atlasok.com> wrote: 
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>>> jwellman at jwgeo.com wrote:
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>>>>    On a different note, what ideas have people considered for
>>>>    exterior-to-COB insulation?
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>Message: 4
>Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 09:07:54 -0500
>From: Patrick Newberry <PNewberry at habitat.org>
>Subject: Re: [Cob] double pane windows
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>So you don't mean "store" bought double pane windows, but just two panes embedded in the cob?
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>I also live in Georgia. I have single pane window embedded in the cob and on cold days like today there is a fair amount of condensation on the windows. But then  here in Middle Georgia, the winters are pretty short.
>
>Pat
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>Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, and professionals built the Titanic.
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>> On Behalf Of Damon Howell
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 2:45 PM
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>> Subject: [Cob] double pane windows
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>> I'd like to put free form windows in my cob cottage. I want to double
>> pane them, but was wondering about condensation buildup in between
>> the panes (like in a broken sliding glass door). I'm in Georgia,
>> which is very humid.
>>
>> Damon
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>Message: 5
>Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 08:46:03 -0600 (CST)
>From: Dean Sherwin <costman at verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: [Cob] Coblist Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1
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>since you say it is a large creek, I presume there is no significant fall or fast moving water.  In cases where there is a head of water, a neat solution is the Ram pump which uses the hydropower of falling water to pump a portion of the water uphill or to wherever.  that's an old old technology but I believe still available.
>Dean Sherwin
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>   1. water supply (Wilderness Voice)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:29:34 -0800 (PST)
>From: Wilderness Voice <thewildernessvoice at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Cob] water supply
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>Our property is about 90ft wide and about 400ft long, the long end terminates in a large creek and so we need to pump water from the creek about 300ft with about a 20ft elevation. Anyone have any ideas on how to do this? or any forum that might give us some ideas? We have tried Backwoods Solar, but pumping water is outside their experience other than pumping it out of a well.
>thanks
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