[Cob] cob in Haiti

[AL]

Earth bag would be more effective if done the Cal-Earth way.  These
structures are monolithic structures tested for earthquake in cali and
performed above and beyond the requirements.  You should contact them if
interested they'd probably train you for free, and it may be that they have
a team on the ground there, or at least know of one.

PS. I know some people down there if you get anything going, let me know.

Peace,

Al


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> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:22:41 -0500
> From: Henry Raduazo <raduazo at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Cob] cob in Haiti
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>        I was wondering: Are there any cobbers on this list in Haiti? I have
> been talking to a non-cob person who has been there. I am trying to
> get a picture of what is going on. It sounds to me like they need to
> train a team of Creole speaking people that know cob building, Lorna
> stove construction, Humanure, Rainwater Harvesting, permaculture
> skills and retaining wall building skills. There is plenty of
> Urbanite to work with and there appears to be plenty of clay and
> grass or hay.
>        It is hard to imagine a peasant culture that can't build their own
> homes or grow their own food, but that is what seems to exist in Haiti.
>
> Ed
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:24:59 -0500
> From: "Nilsa~" <nilsanneil at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cob] cob in Haiti
> To: Henry Raduazo <raduazo at cox.net>
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> Hi list..
> I've been watching and reading this group for over a year but have never
> responded to anything until now.
>
> I'll be joining a group going back to Haiti in January for a site
> assessments in both Ley Cayes and Santo's for AG and Natural building
> assessments.
>
> Specifically I would like to ask the group if they know of any groups or
> NGO's etc who have earth bag / cob projects up and running in Haiti. My
> heart is geared towards earth bags because its quicker and our folks can go
> out and teach another..I have hands on but no one else in the group has so
> I
> thought while there I can SHOW them... a picture is worth a thousand words
> but if you can see it, touch it and see the potential for yourselves, then
> that's empowerment, and empowerment creates motion.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Peace and blessings,
> nilsa
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Henry Raduazo <raduazo at cox.net> wrote:
>
> >        I was wondering: Are there any cobbers on this list in Haiti? I
> have
> > been talking to a non-cob person who has been there. I am trying to get a
> > picture of what is going on. It sounds to me like they need to train a
> team
> > of Creole speaking people that know cob building, Lorna stove
> construction,
> > Humanure, Rainwater Harvesting, permaculture skills and retaining wall
> > building skills. There is plenty of Urbanite to work with and there
> appears
> > to be plenty of clay and grass or hay.
> >        It is hard to imagine a peasant culture that can't build their own
> > homes or grow their own food, but that is what seems to exist in Haiti.
> >
> > Ed
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:26:58 -0800
> From: "Dulane" <silkworm at spiderhollow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cob] cob in Haiti
> To: "'Nilsa~'" <nilsanneil at gmail.com>,  "'Henry Raduazo'"
>        <raduazo at cox.net>
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> I don't know about elevation and ground water issues, but I think that
> earth
> bag could be done effectively over there. I've been watching the videos on
> TV for materials, and I believe they just need more cement crushers to
> build
> a whole community of earth bag dwellings. I love cob, but it isn't the
> answer for areas without good drainage.
>
> Maybe they just need poly bags and mauls to crunch up that broken concrete
> and cinder block. I'd love to go over and help with a house project, but
> since I'm pushing 60 with a few health issues, I don't think I'd be that
> much of an asset. (Where would I sleep at night and could I stay healthy?)
> I'd be willing to donate something to that kind of a project however, like
> some rolls of ply bag.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: coblist-bounces at deatech.com [mailto:coblist-bounces at deatech.com] On
> Behalf Of Nilsa~
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:25 AM
> To: Henry Raduazo
> Cc: Cob List
> Subject: Re: [Cob] cob in Haiti
>
> Hi list..
> I've been watching and reading this group for over a year but have never
> responded to anything until now.
>
> I'll be joining a group going back to Haiti in January for a site
> assessments in both Ley Cayes and Santo's for AG and Natural building
> assessments.
>
> Specifically I would like to ask the group if they know of any groups or
> NGO's etc who have earth bag / cob projects up and running in Haiti. My
> heart is geared towards earth bags because its quicker and our folks can go
> out and teach another..I have hands on but no one else in the group has so
> I
> thought while there I can SHOW them... a picture is worth a thousand words
> but if you can see it, touch it and see the potential for yourselves, then
> that's empowerment, and empowerment creates motion.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Peace and blessings,
> nilsa
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Henry Raduazo <raduazo at cox.net> wrote:
>
> >        I was wondering: Are there any cobbers on this list in Haiti? I
> have
> > been talking to a non-cob person who has been there. I am trying to get a
> > picture of what is going on. It sounds to me like they need to train a
> team
> > of Creole speaking people that know cob building, Lorna stove
> construction,
> > Humanure, Rainwater Harvesting, permaculture skills and retaining wall
> > building skills. There is plenty of Urbanite to work with and there
> appears
> > to be plenty of clay and grass or hay.
> >        It is hard to imagine a peasant culture that can't build their own
> > homes or grow their own food, but that is what seems to exist in Haiti.
> >
> > Ed
> >
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