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Cob: RE: RE: RE: Sealing cement roofsBen Harrison bharrison at crystald.comWed Jan 15 13:51:50 CST 2003
Yes, I understood that they weren't using it for an inside application. I was simlpy suggesting that if they were willing to paint their exterior concrete walls with a mixture of gasoline and styrofoam (which on it's face anyway sounds pretty nasty) then they might also not be aware of the dangers of lead based paints and use those on their interiors. I was in no way suggesting that "first world" countries are inherently "better" than third world countries. There is alot about this country and capitolism that I despise and am embarrased by. I do think that most people are aware that many "third world" countries don't have the same level of education when it comes to these things or the laws are less strict when it comes to dealing with toxic substances. That's why so many heartless, money grubbing, American corporations set up shop in these places right? It's a sad reality but a reality none the less. Sorry for the rant. - Ben -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Newberry [mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:01 AM To: coblist at deatech.com Subject: Cob: RE: RE: Sealing cement roofs They were not using it for an inside application, only on the cement roofs to seal. I'm belive it would dry reasonable quickly. Of course it might be a bad idea, still investigating, of course there are a lot of things get done by rich educated folks in first world countries that should not be immiated either, just to make a buck :-) Pat Newberry www.gypsyfarm.com -----Original Message----- From: Ben Harrison [mailto:bharrison at crystald.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:50 PM To: Patrick Newberry; coblist at deatech.com Subject: RE: RE: Sealing cement roofs Not only is it not very natural but it sounds like cancer just waiting to happen. I'm sure there are plenty of things the uneducated poor do in third world countries that involve the use of hazardous, cancer causing materials but is that something we want to immitate? They probably still use lead based paints to cover their interior walls too. Don't gamble with your health just to save a buck. :) - Ben -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Newberry [ mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org <mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org> ] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:16 AM To: coblist at deatech.com Subject: Cob: RE: Sealing cement roofs I know this isn't very natural, but I heard about some cement roofs being sealed in Guatamala using old styrofoam and gasoline. Mixed to gether I guess it melts the styrofoam into some type of a substance that can then be painted on to the cement and seal it. This is currently being used on habitat homes in Guatamala. Has anyone else heard of this. I'll be putting a ferro cement roof over the outer section of my cob house and have been looking into fibers (looking at steel and fiberglass) to try to keep it as thin as possible since I am building by hand and must carry the cement up to the roof. Pat www.gypsyfarm.com -------------- next part -------------- <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-2022-jp"> <TITLE>RE: RE: Sealing cement roofs</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2719.2200" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=173321919-15012003>Yes, I understood that they weren't using it for an inside application. I was simlpy suggesting that if they were willing to paint</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=173321919-15012003>their exterior concrete walls with a mixture of gasoline and styrofoam (which on it's face anyway sounds pretty nasty) then they</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=173321919-15012003>might also not be aware of the dangers of lead based paints and use those on their interiors. I was in no way suggesting that</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=173321919-15012003>"first world" countries are inherently "better" than third world countries. There is alot about this country and capitolism that I</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=173321919-15012003>despise and am embarrased by. I do think that most people are aware that many "third world" countries don't have the same </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=173321919-15012003>level of education when it comes to these things or the laws are less strict when it comes to dealing with toxic substances.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=173321919-15012003>That's why so many heartless, money grubbing, American corporations set up shop in these places right? It's a sad reality</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=173321919-15012003>but a reality none the less. Sorry for the rant.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=173321919-15012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=173321919-15012003>- Ben</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=173321919-15012003> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=173321919-15012003> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Patrick Newberry [mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:01 AM<BR><B>To:</B> coblist at deatech.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Cob: RE: RE: Sealing cement roofs<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=991555718-15012003>They were not using it for an inside application, only on the cement roofs to seal. I'm belive it would dry reasonable quickly. Of course it might be a bad idea, still investigating, of course there are a lot of things get done by rich educated folks in first world countries that should not be immiated either, just to make a buck :-)</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=991555718-15012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=991555718-15012003>Pat Newberry</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=991555718-15012003>www.gypsyfarm.com</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ben Harrison [mailto:bharrison at crystald.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Patrick Newberry; coblist at deatech.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: RE: Sealing cement roofs<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <P><FONT size=2>Not only is it not very natural but it sounds like cancer just waiting to happen.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>I'm sure there are plenty of things the uneducated poor do in third world countries</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>that involve the use of hazardous, cancer causing materials but is that something we</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>want to immitate? They probably still use lead based paints to cover their interior</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>walls too. Don't gamble with your health just to save a buck. :)</FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=2>- Ben</FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From: Patrick Newberry [<A href="mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org">mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:16 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To: coblist at deatech.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: Cob: RE: Sealing cement roofs</FONT> </P><BR> <P><FONT size=2>I know this isn't very natural, but I heard about some cement roofs being sealed in Guatamala using old styrofoam and gasoline. Mixed to gether I guess it melts the styrofoam into some type of a substance that can then be painted on to the cement and seal it. </FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>This is currently being used on habitat homes in Guatamala. </FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>Has anyone else heard of this. I'll be putting a ferro cement roof over the outer section of my cob house and have been looking into fibers (looking at steel and fiberglass) to try to keep it as thin as possible since I am building by hand and must carry the cement up to the roof. </FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>Pat</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>www.gypsyfarm.com</FONT> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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