Cob: RE: RE: RE: Mud Hut
Ben Harrison
bharrison at crystald.com
Thu Jan 16 12:53:17 CST 2003
Point well taken. I envy you. I'm 37years young, married for 13 years this
month and have an 8year old son.
I work in the video games industry in the Bay area and while I enjoy a
comfortable life style free from debt
except for a very managable mortgage payment, I long for a different kind of
lifestyle. Alot of people would
kill to have my life. I love my family emmensly and would never put my own
desires/excentricities above their
well being but there is a part of me that would love to do what you and so
many of the others on this list are
doing or trying to do. I'm an artist and a dreamer that feels trapped in
this modern life. So, I guess I'll have to
live vicariously through the rest of you and count my blessings.
-----Original Message-----
From: Abe Connally [mailto:abe at abeconnally.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:19 AM
To: coblist at deatech.com
Subject: Cob: RE: RE: Mud Hut
Yes,
Joseph Campbell can illustrate the path for anyone. Another good read of
his is "The Hero with a Thousand Faces"
What we must learn is how to merge our current knowledge and technology with
the balance of the past. There is no reason why one cannot have both.
Build with cob, use alternative energy, and still surf the net in the
afternoon. Actually, the best example is this list. A discussion of like
minds that spans continents, but the subject matter is over 10,000 years
old.
My girlfriend and I are building a self-sustainable home nessled in the
mountains of the Chihuahuan desert. We are building out of cob and stone
(both readily available)and including the standard gridless setup (ie..
rainwater catchment, solar and wind energy, passive solar design, etc). We
are also including modern conveniences like High speed satellite internet
access, propane refrigeration, electric lights, etc.
Anything is possible. Just focus your thoughts and energy on what needs to
be accomplished, and then look and what you lack. If done in the right
frame of mind, you will never lack anything.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]On Behalf
Of Ben Harrison
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:42 AM
To: 'sarah kercheval'; coblist at deatech.com
Subject: Cob: RE: Mud Hut
I happen to own this book. I picked it up from Borders books several months
ago. It really is a great book. It's pretty much the only comprehensive book
I've been able to find on "primative architecture" of any kind. I would
highly
recommend it to anyone interested in such things. I thoroughly agree with
Sarah's
sentiments. There used to be a balance between man and nature. When I look
at what
the world has become and the world that the native Americans thrived in,
their world
looks quite utopian by comparison. It was only when man put himself above
nature
(rather than a humble piece within nature) that the slow but steady march
toward this
mess that we have now began. You could blame it on the rise of the
Europeans(of which I'm decended)
but it really goes back to the birth of the the Judao-Christian religions.
There was
a time when my ancestors in Europe lived much like the native Americans.
Yes, like it or not,
religion and science are both equally to blame for the dead end road we find
ourselves racing down.
The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell is another great book I would
recommend.
-----Original Message-----
From: sarah kercheval [ mailto:hi_eagle at hotmail.com
<mailto:hi_eagle at hotmail.com> ]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:15 AM
To: coblist at deatech.com
Subject: Cob: Mud Hut
Yes, I agree, just call it what it is, and be proud!
Check out a really great book called Native American Architecture, the next
time you're at the library. It is a great resource of natural buildings
that populated our landscape not too long ago. We are looking to pruchase
this book in the future to reinforce our proof that what you live in is not
as important as HOW you live, ie, safe healthy, eco concious living
structures.
The proof positive that these structures are superior, is in the fact that
they no longer can be seen standing in most places. They are gentler and
kinder to the earth in that they go back to it when their time is over.
This is in itself natural.
Sarah
>From: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net>
>Reply-To: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net>
>To: coblist at deatech.com
>Subject: RE: Cob: adobe/cob Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:20:36 -0600
>
>Everytime I mention these concepts to someone who is not 'into natural
>building', they cut across all of our carefully worded definitions and
>exclaim, "Are you REALLY going to build a MUD HUT?". Since I have planned
>an amalgamation(sp?) of methods from the beginning, I have quit fighting
>and just answer, "Yep. Got a problem with that?".
>
>;)
>Neana
>PS: Very punny, Matt!
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<DIV><SPAN class=136283218-16012003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Point
well taken. I envy you. I'm 37years young, married for 13 years this month and
have an 8year old son.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=136283218-16012003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I work
in the video games industry in the Bay area and while I enjoy a comfortable life
style free from debt</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=136283218-16012003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>except
for a very managable mortgage payment, I long for a different kind of lifestyle.
Alot of people would</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=136283218-16012003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>kill
to have my life. I love my family emmensly and would never put my own
desires/excentricities above their</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=136283218-16012003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>well
being but there is a part of me that would love to do what you and so many of
the others on this list are </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=136283218-16012003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>doing
or trying to do. I'm an artist and a dreamer that feels trapped in this modern
life. So, I guess I'll have to</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=136283218-16012003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>live
vicariously </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=136283218-16012003><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>through the rest of you and count my
blessings.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=136283218-16012003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Abe Connally
[mailto:abe at abeconnally.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:19
AM<BR><B>To:</B> coblist at deatech.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Cob: RE: RE: Mud
Hut<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003>Yes,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003>Joseph Campbell can illustrate the path for
anyone. Another good read of his is "The Hero with a Thousand
Faces"</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=820181118-16012003>What
we must learn is how to merge our current knowledge and technology with
the balance of the past. There is no reason why one cannot have
both. Build with cob, use alternative energy, and still surf the net in
the afternoon. Actually, the best example is this list. A
discussion of like minds that spans continents, but the subject matter is over
10,000 years old.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=820181118-16012003>My
girlfriend and I are building a self-sustainable home nessled in the mountains
of the Chihuahuan desert. We are building out of cob and stone (both
readily available)and including the standard gridless setup (ie.. rainwater
catchment, solar and wind energy, passive solar design, etc). We are
also including modern conveniences like High speed satellite internet access,
propane refrigeration, electric lights, etc.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003>Anything is possible. Just focus your thoughts
and energy on what needs to be accomplished, and then look and what you
lack. If done in the right frame of mind, you will never lack
anything.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=820181118-16012003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-coblist at deatech.com
[mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ben
Harrison<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:42 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'sarah kercheval'; coblist at deatech.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Cob: RE: Mud
Hut<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>I happen to own this book. I picked it up from Borders books
several months</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>ago. It really is a great book. It's
pretty much the only comprehensive book </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>I've been
able to find on "primative architecture" of any kind. I would highly
</FONT><BR><FONT size=2>recommend it to anyone interested in such things. I
thoroughly agree with Sarah's</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>sentiments. There used
to be a balance between man and nature. When I look at what </FONT><BR><FONT
size=2>the world has become and the world that the native Americans thrived
in, their world </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>looks quite utopian by comparison.
It was only when man put himself above nature</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>(rather than a humble piece within nature) that the slow but steady
march toward this </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>mess that we have now began. You
could blame it on the rise of the Europeans(of which I'm decended)</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>but it really goes back to the birth of the the
Judao-Christian religions. There was</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>a time when my
ancestors in Europe lived much like the native Americans. Yes, like it or
not, </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>religion and science are both equally to blame
for the dead end road we find ourselves racing down.</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell is another great book I would
recommend. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From:
sarah kercheval [<A
href="mailto:hi_eagle at hotmail.com">mailto:hi_eagle at hotmail.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:15 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>To: coblist at deatech.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: Cob: Mud
Hut</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>Yes, I agree, just call it what it is, and be proud!</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Check out a really great book called Native American
Architecture, the next </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>time you're at the
library. It is a great resource of natural buildings </FONT><BR><FONT
size=2>that populated our landscape not too long ago. We are looking
to pruchase </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>this book in the future to reinforce our
proof that what you live in is not </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>as important as
HOW you live, ie, safe healthy, eco concious living </FONT><BR><FONT
size=2>structures.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>The proof positive that these
structures are superior, is in the fact that </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>they no
longer can be seen standing in most places. They are gentler and
</FONT><BR><FONT size=2>kinder to the earth in that they go back to it when
their time is over.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>This is in itself
natural.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Sarah</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>>From: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net></FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>>Reply-To: "neana" <neana at terraworld.net></FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>>To: coblist at deatech.com</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>>Subject: RE: Cob: adobe/cob Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:20:36
-0600</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>Everytime I
mention these concepts to someone who is not 'into natural </FONT><BR><FONT
size=2>>building', they cut across all of our carefully worded
definitions and </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>>exclaim, "Are you REALLY going
to build a MUD HUT?". Since I have planned </FONT><BR><FONT
size=2>>an amalgamation(sp?) of methods from the beginning, I have quit
fighting </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>>and just answer, "Yep. Got a
problem with that?".</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>>;)</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>Neana</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>>PS: Very punny, Matt!</FONT> </P><BR>
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