Cob: Re: RE: horse hair

Sat Mar 29 12:53:57 CST 2003

OOPs ,, I should have read on down before I posted,, sorry,,,  At least ,,,Joe,, We are on the same page....   ~¿~   bill
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Skeesick 
  To: coblist at deatech.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 12:04 PM
  Subject: Cob: RE: horse hair

  Quick comment on the validity of the hair conversation. 

  It is most definitely not off topic as a properly constructed cob wall must be protected by a plaster render. The best render you can apply is a lime plaster. The best lime renders contain hair. Easy as that. let the conversation continue (at least if I've got a vote in this.) J

  As to lurker's question..

  The function of the hair in the plaster is the same as the straw in cob. It works as a reinforcement strand within the plaster helping it to hold together when expanding, contracting or otherwise shifting on the structure. It's a good thing. 

  The only issue I have heard with using human hair is that it is to smooth. That animal hair is coarser. It can still be used, its just not the best.

  Joe

  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]On Behalf Of Mary Hooper
  Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:00 PM
  To: coblist at deatech.com
  Subject: Cob: horse hair

  A lurker here.......

  Human hair was used as the crosshairs in rifle scopes, according to my memories.... 

  I'm late in this discussion....so would someone tell me what function the hair served in the plaster? 

  I use hair in my compost.......I cut my honey's hair so he has contributed 10 years worth of it to the piles.... I just spread an 8 year pile on my garden and it showed no hairs at all..... 

  My question has to do with insects....might hair not attract unwanted insects? Or does the lime used in the mix make it unattractive....???? 

  Mary, in NC mtns where winter returns tomorrow 

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>OOPs ,, I should have read on down before I 
posted,, sorry,,,  At least ,,,Joe,, We are on the same 
page....   ~¿~   bill</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=joe at skeesick.com href="mailto:joe at skeesick.com">Joe Skeesick</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=coblist at deatech.com 
  href="mailto:coblist at deatech.com">coblist at deatech.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 29, 2003 12:04 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Cob: RE: horse hair</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
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  <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle15><FONT face=Arial color=navy 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Quick 
  comment on the validity of the hair conversation… 
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle15><FONT face=Arial color=navy 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle15><FONT face=Arial color=navy 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">It is 
  most definitely not off topic as a properly constructed cob wall must be 
  protected by a plaster render. The best render you can apply is a lime 
  plaster. The best lime renders contain hair. Easy as that… let the 
  conversation continue (at least if I’ve got a vote in this…) 
  </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=EmailStyle15><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy 
  size=2><SPAN 
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  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">As to 
  lurker’s question….<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle15><FONT face=Arial color=navy 
  size=2><SPAN 
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  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">The 
  function of the hair in the plaster is the same as the straw in cob. It works 
  as a reinforcement strand within the plaster helping it to hold together when 
  expanding, contracting or otherwise shifting on the structure. It’s a good 
  thing. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle15><FONT face=Arial color=navy 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle15><FONT face=Arial color=navy 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">The 
  only issue I have heard with using human hair is that it is to smooth. That 
  animal hair is coarser. It can still be used, its just not the 
  best.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle15><FONT face=Arial color=navy 
  size=2><SPAN 
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Joe<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original 
  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> 
  owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]<B><SPAN 
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mary Hooper<BR><B><SPAN 
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:00 
  PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 
  coblist at deatech.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> 
  Cob: horse hair</SPAN></FONT></P>
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A 
  lurker here.......</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN 
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  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT 
  color=black><SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Human 
  hair was used as the crosshairs in rifle scopes, according to my memories.... 
  </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm 
  late in this discussion....so would someone tell me what function the hair 
  served in the plaster? </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I use 
  hair in my compost.......I cut my honey's hair so he has contributed 10 
  years worth of it to the piles.... I just spread an 8 year pile on my garden 
  and it showed no hairs at all..... </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  color=black size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT 
  color=black><SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My 
  question has to do with insects....might hair not attract unwanted insects? Or 
  does the lime used in the mix make it unattractive....???? </SPAN></FONT><FONT 
  color=black><SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mary, 
  in NC mtns where winter returns tomorrow</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN 
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