Cob: Re: RE: horse hair
Bill&Julie
wbates at mn.rr.com
Sat Mar 29 12:53:57 CST 2003
OOPs ,, I should have read on down before I posted,, sorry,,, At least ,,,Joe,, We are on the same page.... ~¿~ bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Skeesick
To: coblist at deatech.com
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 12:04 PM
Subject: Cob: RE: horse hair
Quick comment on the validity of the hair conversation.
It is most definitely not off topic as a properly constructed cob wall must be protected by a plaster render. The best render you can apply is a lime plaster. The best lime renders contain hair. Easy as that. let the conversation continue (at least if I've got a vote in this.) J
As to lurker's question..
The function of the hair in the plaster is the same as the straw in cob. It works as a reinforcement strand within the plaster helping it to hold together when expanding, contracting or otherwise shifting on the structure. It's a good thing.
The only issue I have heard with using human hair is that it is to smooth. That animal hair is coarser. It can still be used, its just not the best.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]On Behalf Of Mary Hooper
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:00 PM
To: coblist at deatech.com
Subject: Cob: horse hair
A lurker here.......
Human hair was used as the crosshairs in rifle scopes, according to my memories....
I'm late in this discussion....so would someone tell me what function the hair served in the plaster?
I use hair in my compost.......I cut my honey's hair so he has contributed 10 years worth of it to the piles.... I just spread an 8 year pile on my garden and it showed no hairs at all.....
My question has to do with insects....might hair not attract unwanted insects? Or does the lime used in the mix make it unattractive....????
Mary, in NC mtns where winter returns tomorrow
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>OOPs ,, I should have read on down before I
posted,, sorry,,, At least ,,,Joe,, We are on the same
page.... ~¿~ bill</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=joe at skeesick.com href="mailto:joe at skeesick.com">Joe Skeesick</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 29, 2003 12:04
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Cob: RE: horse hair</DIV>
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comment on the validity of the hair conversation…
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">It is
most definitely not off topic as a properly constructed cob wall must be
protected by a plaster render. The best render you can apply is a lime
plaster. The best lime renders contain hair. Easy as that… let the
conversation continue (at least if I’ve got a vote in this…)
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=EmailStyle15><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy
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lurker’s question….<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">The
function of the hair in the plaster is the same as the straw in cob. It works
as a reinforcement strand within the plaster helping it to hold together when
expanding, contracting or otherwise shifting on the structure. It’s a good
thing. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">The
only issue I have heard with using human hair is that it is to smooth. That
animal hair is coarser. It can still be used, its just not the
best.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mary Hooper<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:00
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
coblist at deatech.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Cob: horse hair</SPAN></FONT></P>
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lurker here.......</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Human
hair was used as the crosshairs in rifle scopes, according to my memories....
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm
late in this discussion....so would someone tell me what function the hair
served in the plaster? </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I use
hair in my compost.......I cut my honey's hair so he has contributed 10
years worth of it to the piles.... I just spread an 8 year pile on my garden
and it showed no hairs at all..... </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My
question has to do with insects....might hair not attract unwanted insects? Or
does the lime used in the mix make it unattractive....???? </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mary,
in NC mtns where winter returns tomorrow</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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