Fwd: Re: Cob: Re: Florida soil

[David Knowlton]

>From: kupononaturalbuilders <kuponobuilders at snowcrest.net>
>Reply-To: kupononaturalbuilders <kuponobuilders at snowcrest.net>
>To: David Knowlton <pilot1ab80 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Cob: Re: Florida soil
>Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 08:00:45 -0700
>
>The earth bags are available at Calearth. We've used them on a greenhouse
>project. We also toured the Hesperia site. Pretty cool stuff. Contact
>Calearth at http://www.calearth.org.
>
>Miki'ala
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Knowlton" <pilot1ab80 at hotmail.com>
>To: <ryangriffin1975 at yahoo.com>; <coblist at deatech.com>
>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 5:32 AM
>Subject: Re: Cob: Re: Florida soil
>
>
> > Ryan,
> >
> > Hi, I'm from Tampa. I have no unconventional building experience. I was
>told
> > that to build an earthen dwelling in Florida one should use Earthbags. I
> > think you can find info if you search on earthbags,
> > or earth bags, or natural building. The product is a synthetic cloth 
>tube
> > that you fill with earth, and I suppose coil up to enclose a space. I 
>was
> > thinking of posts and beams for a framework, and maybe a central pillar 
>to
> > support a corbelled roof. Keep asking questions of this group and they
>will
> > give you plenty of info. Good luck
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > >From: Ryan Griffin <ryangriffin1975 at yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: Ryan Griffin <ryangriffin1975 at yahoo.com>
> > >To: coblist at deatech.com
> > >Subject: Cob: Re: Florida soil
> > >Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:14:40 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >
> > >It may be very sandy, I will have to inquire.  If it is, can't I still
>dig
> > >my trench, fill it with gravel, and import clay and sand?
> > >
> > >
> > >Lisa <downloadstorage at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >my concern with this plan is the nature of Florida soil... in my
> > >experience, it is very sandy.  do you think it will be suited to cob?
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Ryan Griffin
> > >To: coblist at deatech.com
> > >Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 1:10 AM
> > >Subject: Cob: RE: Cob in Florida?
> > >
> > >
> > >Hello All!
> > >I am a single mom in North Florida, Jacksonville.  I am getting ready 
>to
> > >start prospecting land as I am interested in building a cob dwelling.  
>I
> > >have a question though.  I used to live in Tallahassee, FL in a 
>concrete
> > >house.  Once, there was a problem with the roof or drainage system or
> > >something or other and the walls started to bleed water when it would
>rain
> > >or get very damp outside.  It got so bad that about a foot of mold
>started
> > >to grow around the upper part of the walls.  My dogs and I all three 
>got
> > >sick.  Does the weather in Florida permit cob building without the 
>threat
> > >of mold, insects, and vermin?  Does anyone have the answer to this 
>before
>I
> > >start prospecting land.  Also, I would like to pay for all my materials
>in
> > >cash, ideally.  Does anyone have an idea of approximate cost of 
>building
>a
> > >3000 square foot cob house with recycled windows and a door.  So,
> > >basically, we're talking roof, frame, plumbing, electrical, building
> > >supplies, etc.  Does a cob house need a frame, a
> > >  two story cob?  I know these are many questions but I thank anyone 
>who
> > >has any ideas or answers.  Is $10,000 for materials plus septic tank
>about
> > >right?
> > >
> > >Thanks, Ryan in Jacksonville
> > >
> > >
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