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Cob: RE: Re: Cob wall near Washington DCJoe Skeesick joe at skeesick.comWed Jul 23 02:03:34 CDT 2003
I've thought many times about using a tiller to make cob (I've got a big BCS so it should handle it) don't have it with me right now though and so it was just speculative thinking. I was concerned that the straw would just become tangled around the tines though. Are you adding the straw manually or is it just thrown in the mix for the tiller to deal with? Oh, and congrats on getting the wall complete. Joe -----Original Message----- From: owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]On Behalf Of Raduazo at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:29 AM To: coblist at deatech.com Subject: Cob: Re: Cob wall near Washington DC The building phase of my wall is finished it weighs about 8 tons dry, and I would like to thank all those who stooped by to help lift and ram the 8 tons of material into place. A couple of people expressed surprise about how efficient a rototiller is at mixing cob. This should be a no-brainer. Especially for anyone who has read articles by organic gardeners about why they hate rototillers. Cobbers should love rototillers for the same reasons that gardeners hate them. "If you mix wet soil with a tiller or over till the soil it is compacted and turns to concrete." Let's hear it for soil that is compacted turned to concrete. My 5 horsepower tiller delivers ten times as much power to the soil as my poor aching feet ever could. I like mixing batches of two tons at a time. I have also used rototiller to mine clay. Simply remove the overburden (topsoil) place a layer of sand on the cut and start tilling. I mixed up a batch of earth plaster today and hope to schedule a plastering party soon. Thanks for everything Ed -------------- next part -------------- <html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 9"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 9"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml at 01C350F0.E9A6C620"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:1627421319 -2147483648 8 0 66047 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} p.MsoAutoSig, li.MsoAutoSig, div.MsoAutoSig {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle15 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US style='tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial FAMILY=SANSSERIF><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial'>I’ve thought many times about using a tiller to make cob (I’ve got a big BCS so it should handle it) don’t have it with me right now though and so it was just speculative thinking. I was concerned that the straw would just become tangled around the tines though. Are you adding the straw manually or is it just thrown in the mix for the tiller to deal with?<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Oh, and congrats on getting the wall complete.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Joe<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Raduazo at aol.com<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:29 AM<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> coblist at deatech.com<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Cob: Re: Cob wall near Washington DC</span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> The building phase of my wall is finished it weighs about 8 tons dry, and I would like to thank all those who stooped by to help lift and ram the 8 tons of material into place. A couple of people expressed surprise about how efficient a rototiller is at mixing cob. This should be a no-brainer. Especially for anyone who has read articles by organic gardeners about why they hate rototillers.<br> Cobbers should love rototillers for the same reasons that gardeners hate them. "If you mix wet soil with a tiller or over till the soil it is compacted and turns to concrete." Let's hear it for soil that is compacted turned to concrete. My 5 horsepower tiller delivers ten times as much power to the soil as my poor aching feet ever could. I like mixing batches of two tons at a time.<br> I have also used rototiller to mine clay. Simply remove the overburden (topsoil) place a layer of sand on the cut and start tilling.<br> I mixed up a batch of earth plaster today and hope to schedule a plastering party soon.<br> Thanks for everything<br> Ed</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html>
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