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Cob: RE: Re: Cob wall near Washington DC

Joe Skeesick joe at skeesick.com
Wed Jul 23 02:03:34 CDT 2003


I've thought many times about using a tiller to make cob (I've got a big BCS
so it should handle it) don't have it with me right now though and so it was
just speculative thinking. I was concerned that the straw would just become
tangled around the tines though. Are you adding the straw manually or is it
just thrown in the mix for the tiller to deal with?

Oh, and congrats on getting the wall complete.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]On Behalf
Of Raduazo at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:29 AM
To: coblist at deatech.com
Subject: Cob: Re: Cob wall near Washington DC

       The building phase of my wall is finished it weighs about 8 tons dry,
and I would like to thank all those who stooped by to help lift and ram the
8 tons of material into place. A couple of people expressed surprise about
how efficient a rototiller is at mixing cob. This should be a no-brainer.
Especially for anyone who has read articles by organic gardeners about why
they hate rototillers.
       Cobbers should love rototillers for the same reasons that gardeners
hate them. "If you mix wet soil with a tiller or over till the soil it is
compacted and turns to concrete." Let's hear it for soil that is compacted
turned to concrete. My 5 horsepower tiller delivers ten times as much power
to the soil as my poor aching feet ever could. I like mixing batches of two
tons at a time.
       I have also used rototiller to mine clay.  Simply remove the
overburden (topsoil) place a layer of sand on the cut and start tilling.
       I mixed up a batch of earth plaster today and hope to schedule a
plastering party soon.
       Thanks for everything
       Ed
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got a big BCS so it should handle it) don’t have it with me right now though
and so it was just speculative thinking. I was concerned that the straw would
just become tangled around the tines though. Are you adding the straw manually
or is it just thrown in the mix for the tiller to deal with?<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-coblist at deatech.com
[mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Raduazo at aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 23, 2003
1:29 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> coblist at deatech.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Cob: Re: Cob wall near
Washington DC</span></font></p>

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The building phase of my wall is finished it weighs about 8 tons dry, and I
would like to thank all those who stooped by to help lift and ram the 8 tons of
material into place. A couple of people expressed surprise about how efficient
a rototiller is at mixing cob. This should be a no-brainer. Especially for
anyone who has read articles by organic gardeners about why they hate
rototillers.<br>
       Cobbers should love rototillers for the
same reasons that gardeners hate them. "If you mix wet soil with a tiller
or over till the soil it is compacted and turns to concrete." Let's hear
it for soil that is compacted turned to concrete. My 5 horsepower tiller
delivers ten times as much power to the soil as my poor aching feet ever could.
I like mixing batches of two tons at a time.<br>
       I have also used rototiller to mine
clay.  Simply remove the overburden (topsoil) place a layer of sand on the
cut and start tilling.<br>
       I mixed up a batch of earth plaster today
and hope to schedule a plastering party soon.<br>
       Thanks for everything<br>
       Ed</span></font><font color=black><span
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