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Cob: electricalAmanda Peck ap615 at hotmail.comWed Sep 10 15:02:26 CDT 2003
"Phantom loads" only become important when you are off-grid. All the little things like the clock on the microwave, the part of the TV that stays on so you can have instant on, all the clocks, LEDs and so on. Get too many of them they can become important in a PV system. Here's the phrase in context (from: http://iseanetwork.org/newsletters/heliographs_fall_2001/ISEANewsBFVR.html ) "Phantom loads are managed by reminding the kids to turn off their lights and power strips when not needed. Other loads such as stereo, TV, VCR and DVD are also on switched power strips." Another one, from Southwest PV's web site: "Are phantom loads really a big deal? If you read many home power articles then you know phantom loads are one of our biggest problems. Phantom loads use electricity while providing nothing in return. A phantom load is any appliance that consumes power even when it is turned off. While they may seem small, they use power twenty-four hours a day. A 4 watt phantom load can cost about $22 a year on a RE system, a lot for an appliance that is supposed to be off. Any appliance with an electronic clock or timer is a phantom load. If we want a clock we should use one that is mechanically wound, battery powered, or even electrical. But a clock in an appliance keeps the appliance's entire power supply "alive" just to tell us the time. Very inefficient. Appliances with remote controls remain alive while waiting for the "on" signal from the remote. Any appliance with a wall cube is also a phantom load. A wall cube is a small box that plugs in to an AC outlet to power appliances. Wall cubes consume 20 to 50% of the appliance's rated power even when the appliance is off. Most modern TV's, VCR's, stereos, computers, fax machines, and other electronics are phantom loads. They may contain a transformer, much like a wall cube, that stays alive even when the appliance is off and consumes between 50 and 200 watt-hours per day. They may also contain a filter or line conditioner, to clean up incoming power for the sensitive electronics inside, consuming 8 to 40 watt-hours per day. Modern televisions have an "instant on" feature so we don't have to wait for the picture tube to warm up. We might as well call these TV's "always on". The most direct way to overcome phantom loads is to unplug the appliance when it's not in use. A more convenient technique is to use a switched plug strip. These short extension cords with multiple receptacles allow us to cut all power to multiple appliances with one flip of a switch. Use care when shopping for appliances that will run on a renewable energy systems. Models that are not phantom loads often have the fewest ball and whistles, but are the least expensive. " Their web site is: http://www.southwestpv.com/Catalog/Home%20Power/LOADANAL.HTM .................. My honey was in electronics/electrical in the navy and taught same in community college. He will be competent to do wiring. Now, he's been out of the field for a few years and says he does not recognize the term phantom loads on GFIs. He says either it's a load or not. Will someone be good enough to explain this wrinkle? Thanks for your perspectives on the topic..... :-) Mary _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
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