Cob: Re: we're not in Kansas anymore...

Fri Apr 20 13:43:01 CDT 2001

Re: Cob: Re: we're not in Kansas anymore...Thank you, Douglas - do not aplogize for being a man!  You had some wise insights to share.

As a woman who spent many years in the company of men who fell into your first category (especially the part regarding men taking over physical labour in the presence of women), in some ways I can understand why women would feel empowered by taking a women's-only workshop.  It is liberating to have the opportunity to prove (to yourself, if no-one else), just what you CAN do.

Or you can get lucky, like I did last fall, and take a workshop run by a man who is willing to let you do your best without interfering.  I built a large willow arbour with the assistance and direction of a man who let ME use three power drills on top of an 8' ladder, and I tell you, it may sound hazardous or unfriendly to Mother Earth, but it was one of the most liberating experiences of my life.  He helped me work out a design, gave me advice when asked, and helped me when asked.  He also commented on how good I was with the tools, saying I must have worked on a lot of construction projects.  In my head I was remembering how many I had worked on - by holding the board.  I made a beautiful, strong arbour that day - 8 feet high, 5 feet across, 3 feet deep.  I left behind a legacy of frustration.  And I did it with a man who was able to let me do it.  So I know it can be done -  it just takes a wise man to make it happen.

And I too, believe that it is time for men & women to lay down their lack of respect for each other (that underlies so much of this stuff) and work side by side, to heal each other and the Earth.

Thanks again Douglas, for having the courage to leap into such a contentious issue!

Karin
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Thank you, Douglas - do not aplogize for being a man!  
You had some wise insights to share.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>As a woman who spent many years in the company of men who fell 
into your first category (especially the part regarding men taking over physical 
labour in the presence of women), in some ways I can understand why women would 
feel empowered by taking a women's-only workshop.  It is liberating to have 
the opportunity to prove (to yourself, if no-one else), just what you CAN 
do.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Or you can get lucky, like I did last fall, and take a 
workshop run by a man who is willing to let you do your best without 
interfering.  I built a large willow arbour with the assistance and 
direction of a man who let ME use three power drills on top of an 8' ladder, and 
I tell you, it may sound hazardous or unfriendly to Mother Earth, but it was one 
of the most liberating experiences of my life.  He helped me work out a 
design, gave me advice when asked, and helped me when asked.  He also 
commented on how good I was with the tools, saying I must have worked on a lot 
of construction projects.  In my head I was remembering how many I had 
worked on - by holding the board.  I made a beautiful, strong arbour that 
day - 8 feet high, 5 feet across, 3 feet deep.  I left behind a legacy 
of frustration.  And I did it with a man who was able to let me do 
it.  So I know it can be done -  it just takes a wise man to make it 
happen.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>And I too, believe that it is time for men & women to lay 
down their lack of respect for each other (that underlies so much of this stuff) 
and work side by side, to heal each other and the Earth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks again Douglas, for having the courage to leap into such 
a contentious issue!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Karin</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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