Cob: ARE OUR NATURAL BUILDING IDEAS CAST IN STONE??? (or, the STONEvs. cast earth controversy continues)

[Ocean]

Desert Rivers,

Thanks for your positive interpretation, in fact I wasn't yelling, only
TYPING IN CAPS...

Sometimes, this "NEW" communication tool (e-mail) seems to have only enabled
people to more easily misunderstood each other...you know, the so-called
"flame wars" etc...

Alas, nevertheless let us continue to use it, as long as it's still
available (and uncensored by Ashcroft & Company).  We should just try to be
more careful about how we interpret each other's intentions...

Ocean
Ahimsa Sanctuary
http://www.peacemaking.org

> From: "Desert rivers -" <rivers77 at hotmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:18:04 +0000
> To: tms at northcoast.com, ocean at peacemaking.org
> Cc: coblist at deatech.com
> Subject: Re: Cob: ARE OUR NATURAL BUILDING IDEAS CAST IN STONE??? (or, the
> STONEvs. cast earth controversy continues)
> 
> I need to say, I never saw Ocean as yelling - it came across to me as
> enthusiasm.  And offering up ideas.  I'm sorry, Charmaine, you chose to view
> what Ocean has been saying and *how* in such a purely negative light.  At
> least that's how I see it.  Now! I hope this can pass.  Okay, I just
> couldn't keep this to myself any longer, apologies.  Now I'll go back to
> lurking.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> HJRandall
> 
> Ah lani lano ama oo
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Charmaine R Taylor <tms at northcoast.com>
>> Reply-To: Charmaine R Taylor <tms at northcoast.com>
>> To: Ocean <ocean at peacemaking.org>
>> CC: Patricia Kerns <pkerns at twistedroad.com>, coblist at deatech.com
>> Subject: Re: Cob: ARE OUR NATURAL BUILDING IDEAS CAST IN STONE??? (or, the
>> STONEvs. cast earth controversy continues)
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>> Let's all lighten up, OK?  There are enough really scarey issues now
>> to get riled up about...
>> Ocean
>> PeaceMaking.org
>> ++++++++++++++++++++
>> Ocean-I think where you got into trouble ( funny for a peacemaker .org
>> guy huh?) was in the "shouting" to use real stone when the conversation
>> was NOT about that at all.
>> 
>> We are discussing how to pour and form a counter or table by hand. If
>> you want to add to that,  that's fine.
>> 
>> "BUT, where is the cement or lime for the "natural"
>> alternatives coming from anyway?  You know it: huge energy-gulping
>> factories hundreds or thousands of miles away..."
>> ++++++++++++
>> Not true, most cement and lime are  mined and produced regionally, hence
>> the wide variety of high cal and dolomitic limes avail and  lime uses
>> far less energy commercially to produce, with the added benefit of
>> reabsorbing carbon dioxide from the air, which mfged.cement does not.
>> 
>> I repeat we are not defending use of materials, we are discussing how to
>> hand-make some items.
>> 
>> I have some bowls, holding water, simply made from clay and lime and
>> paper...paper holding water? yes, and I can sculpt what ever shape I
>> want, by hand, no tools needed, which feels very good to me on a
>> creative level  .I will attempt a counter top too, in myown time, with
>> no heavy lifting, messy cutting or loud drills.... that feels good on
>> many levels. I think most people on the cob list feel the same way.
>> 
>> Charmaine  Taylor/ Taylor Publishing
>> http://www.dirtcheapbuilder.com
>> 
>> 
> 
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