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Cob: RE: Re: Japanese Earthen BuildingArlie Haig ajhaig at sonic.netThu Dec 6 17:10:48 CST 2001
And what lilting, poetic translations they are, too! Here are some: ------------- The ?, more and more it is wall coating. >From the iron board, to place the earth in the iron, it is difficult unexpectedly After painting, very it does not become level. -------- The adult being to be busy uses the machine. Don't you think? the earth it is dense, because, very strong power is in the ?, This machine is moving being the gasoline engine. ------------ After all, the mud is densely play love the child! Becoming the naked foot, don't you think? the earth it is dense, the ? two people who are. ----------------- With the hand being attached which is not accustomed the saw the ? heaven of the ? ? elementary school student (the ? ?) you. In order to think very, it is not cut off. --------------- ETC....I urge you all to go there for a great web translation experience! Arlie -----Original Message----- From: owner-coblist at deatech.com [mailto:owner-coblist at deatech.com]On Behalf Of Keven Naphtali Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:31 AM To: Darel Henman Cc: coblist at deatech.com Subject: Cob: Re: Japanese Earthen Building For those of you on the list who don't understand Japanese which I'm sure is most, you can go to http://babelfish.altavista.com/ and type in darel's links to get a loosely translated version of these web sites. Darel, Just wondering how you tracked down these wonderful resources in Japan, have you been to Japan? I am currently living in Osaka and would love to visit some construction sites if you know of any in the Kansai area. Let me know. Cheers, Keven ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darel Henman" <henman at it.to-be.co.jp> To: "dtebb" <dtebb at alternatives.com> Cc: <coblist at deatech.com> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 4:42 PM Subject: Re: Cob: code cob > In response to your mention of using wood posts and beams. I recalled > the Japanese mud wall and post and frame houses they built up to a > hundred years or so ago. Only wealthy people or important buildings, > temples and what not use it anymore. > > Typical wall thicknesses go from about 7 to 10 inches. For the storage > buildings of important food, books and treasure the walls are thicker. > It is like the wattle and daub method. It is reported to work well in > earthqauke prone areas, such as Japan. > > Rice straw cut and fermented with the clay-soil for three months or so > is the proper way, but a code says that in the summer at least a week is > needed to ferment the straw. I can't find out any scientific reason for > this, but...... they do say that doing this oxydixes the metals in the > soil, it turns a darker color, the straws ferments and gets softer for > easily application and workability as well as produces a kind of glue to > help keep the mixed mud from cracking as much. I've read that the > fermenting straw will smell, and after application for about a week > while it dries. > > Anyway here's some pictures about using the bamboo latice, ####, between > post and beams. > > Sliced bamboo is also used for. Full round bamboo is stuck into drilled > holes in the posts and beams as the intial framework, then sliced strips > of bamboo are woven in and attached with hemp rope. > > Here's the bamboo latice between posts: > http://www.hatukari.co.jp/kabe/pages/01.htm > > Here's applying the mud/straw mix to the bamboo latice. > http://www.hatukari.co.jp/kabe/pages/06.htm > > Here's an interesting lime finish with some kind of natural ink in it. > http://www.kokuchosha.co.jp/sakan/sback/0105sh.html > > Another good example shot: > http://www.mirai.ne.jp/~esnishie/area/waju/sansen/tutikabe.html > > Darel > > dtebb wrote: > > > > Here in parts of British Columbia, cob is now permitted but with a post and > > beam structure. There was 1 fully load bearing house built by Cobworks > > (Cobworks.com) that has a permit, but due to the huge amount of interest by > > others to build, the local permits people came up with the post and beam > > compromise, I guess it is what they are comfortable with. > > > > Ian > > > >
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