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Cob: RE: winter work on wattle and daub by a neophytePatrick Newberry PNewberry at HFHI.orgMon Oct 14 07:47:20 CDT 2002
HI Ruth.
1.) I use the same mixture I'd use for my cob, or basically what I have available locally. It's a bit heavy on the sand and is about 80 to 85 percent sand, the rest clay.
2.) As far as lime goes, I've been going to my local feed store, getting a bag of hydraded lime (they should know what that is) and mixing it more like a white wash.
I sometimes add a bit of powdered gypsysum plaster sold at building supply places for making sheet rock joint compound from a powder. Not too much as it
will cause it to set quicker but the mix has some clay and such and seem to make it "whiter" I keep saying I'm going to add some of this very white sand, or
go out and dig some of this white kayolan (sp?) clay that is available locally but that does not happen to much. Anyway, I mix it to a consitency of regular paint,
the take a paint brush and paint it over the cob or wattle and daub or earth plaster. I put 3 coats. This first coat will mix with the earth and not be very white, the
second coat will be quite white.
3.) I work all year round. One could work as long as it's above freezing but in reality it needs to be a bit warmer than that as your hands will become very cold
quite quickly if you are placing your hands in web cob / duab etc. even with rubber gloves. Rain is fine as long as its not falling on what you are plastering.
It will just dry slower.
Pat Newberry
www.gypsyfarm.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ruth Datooth [mailto:aasuter at hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:47 PM
To: coblist at deatech.com
Subject: Cob: winter work on wattle and daub by a neophyte
here i am! another lurker out into the open!
my name is anna and i live in kentucky where i am building myself an abode.
currently it is a galvalume roof on six cedar posts, with a loft where i sleep and some plastic tacked up to keep the rain out.
our first frost comes on monday, i hear. this is gonna be some cool weather construction the next few months.
what i've got in mind is to put up wattle and daub walls, double layer, with insuation in between.
(sounds simple, but i'm still shoveling dirt and ramming tires to make the floor level!)
my questions:
1. what is the daub mixture for wattle and daub? we have lots of clay and horse poop, goat poop, cow poop. (dog poop too, but i'm not doing that!) is herbivore poop and clay a sufficient daub?
2. when does the lime plaster go over the daub? and what is in the lime plaster? i've read british explanations, but i couldn't translate the sort of lime needed into something that my local feedstore clerk understood......or is this a quarry item?
3. can one daub in cool temps? our kentucky winters usually don't go more than a few consecutive days below freezing. i'm hoping to work in the warm days. if it is warm enough for me to tolerate playing in mud, is it warm enough to daub? is it ok to daub in the rain (roofs overhang a couple food on windward side, a foot on the other sides.)
4. any resources folks would recommend for more wattle and daub info.....as obviously i know very little.
i'm sure i should have checked the archives first, but i have limitted internet time and i'm still two months behind reading my cob list emails. just got up to august 10. : ~ )
thanks a bundle,
anna
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=558463612-14102002>HI
Ruth. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=558463612-14102002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=558463612-14102002>1.) I
use the same mixture I'd use for my cob, or basically what I have available
locally. It's a bit heavy on the sand and is about 80 to 85 percent sand, the
rest clay. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=558463612-14102002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=558463612-14102002>2.) As
far as lime goes, I've been going to my local feed store, getting a bag of
hydraded lime (they should know what that is) and mixing it more like a white
wash. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=558463612-14102002> I sometimes add a bit of
powdered gypsysum plaster sold at building supply places for making sheet rock
joint compound from a powder. Not too much as it</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=558463612-14102002> will cause it to set quicker but the
mix has some clay and such and seem to make it "whiter" I keep saying I'm going
to add some of this very white sand, or</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=558463612-14102002> go out and dig some of this white kayolan
(sp?) clay that is available locally but that does not happen to much. Anyway, I
mix it to a consitency of regular paint, </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=558463612-14102002>
the take a paint brush and paint it over the cob or wattle and daub or earth
plaster. I put 3 coats. This first coat will mix with the earth and not be very
white, the </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=558463612-14102002>
second coat will be quite white. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=558463612-14102002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=558463612-14102002>3.) I
work all year round. One could work as long as it's above freezing but in
reality it needs to be a bit warmer than that as your hands will become very
cold </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=558463612-14102002> quite quickly if you are placing
your hands in web cob / duab etc. even with rubber gloves. Rain is fine as long
as its not falling on what you are plastering. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=558463612-14102002> It will just dry slower.
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=558463612-14102002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=558463612-14102002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=558463612-14102002>Pat
Newberry</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=558463612-14102002>www.gypsyfarm.com</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ruth Datooth
[mailto:aasuter at hotmail.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 11, 2002 9:47
PM<BR><B>To:</B> coblist at deatech.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Cob: winter work on
wattle and daub by a neophyte<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>here i am! another lurker out into the open!</DIV>
<DIV>my name is anna and i live in kentucky where i am building myself an
abode.</DIV>
<DIV>currently it is a galvalume roof on six cedar posts, with a loft where i
sleep and some plastic tacked up to keep the rain out.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>our first frost comes on monday, i hear. this is gonna be
some cool weather construction the next few months.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>what i've got in mind is to put up wattle and daub walls, double layer,
with insuation in between.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>(sounds simple, but i'm still shoveling dirt and ramming tires to
make the floor level!)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>my questions:</DIV>
<DIV>1. what is the daub mixture for wattle and daub? we have lots
of clay and horse poop, goat poop, cow poop. (dog poop too, but i'm not
doing that!) is herbivore poop and clay a sufficient daub?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>2. when does the lime plaster go over the daub? and what is
in the lime plaster? i've read british explanations, but i couldn't
translate the sort of lime needed into something that my local feedstore clerk
understood......or is this a quarry item?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>3. can one daub in cool temps? our kentucky winters usually
don't go more than a few consecutive days below freezing. i'm hoping to
work in the warm days. if it is warm enough for me to tolerate playing
in mud, is it warm enough to daub? is it ok to daub in the rain (roofs
overhang a couple food on windward side, a foot on the other sides.)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>4. any resources folks would recommend for more wattle and daub
info.....as obviously i know very little.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>i'm sure i should have checked the archives first, but i have limitted
internet time and i'm still two months behind reading my cob list
emails. just got up to august 10. : ~ )</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>thanks a bundle,</DIV>
<DIV>anna</DIV></DIV><BR clear=all>
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