[Cob] building with shipping containers, straw bales, and cob

[john fordice]

Marlyn,
What do you know of the wall conditions?
Was it an exterior wall of a building?  Did it have a roof?  Was it a  
freestanding outside wall?  Anything you can add?
Thanks,
other fish
On Jun 26, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Marilyn Pratt wrote:

> I'll add this thought to the mix...  not from experience, but  
> something from a class I just took from Cob Cottage Company.
>
> One of the instructors has had to deconstruct a wall that had a  
> wooden deadman in it.  The deadman was originally decorated with  
> lots of bent nails, to hold it in place and help give it tooth so  
> it would not move inside the cob wall.
>
> When after a year or so he had to go back into that section of the  
> wall, all the nails had rusted completely away except the parts  
> embedded in the wood.  No trace of nails outside the wood.
>
> Remember cob needs to breathe.  It passes moisture while doing so.   
> I'm guessing trying to combine natural materials with the  
> containers might not work well in the long run.
>
> But I'm just a beginner...
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: john fordice <otherfish at comcast.net>
> To: Robert Alcock <ralcock at euskalnet.net>
> Cc: coblist at deatech.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:30:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cob] building with shipping containers, straw bales,  
> and cob
>
> I'd be concerned with moisture condensation on the interior of the
> steel container, at least while the cob is drying.
> other fish
>
> On Jun 26, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Robert Alcock wrote:
>
> > Not to want to buck the trend, here, but I don't think this post  
> is so
> > off-topic... the poster is, after all, asking how to incorporate cob
> > into a particular form of construction (with containers).
> > I would say that cob can likely be used to remodel the interior of a
> > building with almost any material, including steel containers. You
> > would
> > need to paint the steel with an adhesion coat, something that will
> > stick
> > really well to steel and leave a rough surface. The cob would give a
> > comfortable, organic interior with high thermal mass, which would be
> > useful because I imagine containers would tend to be pretty
> > uncomfortable.
> > Thermal expansion/contraction in the steel might present  
> problems. My
> > only experience with cob and steel has been setting a steel  
> woodstove
> > into a cob fireplace, and I have found that the cob cracks  
> because of
> > thermal expansion of the stove. So far the cracks aren't fatal,  
> and we
> > have achieved the intended result (linking the stove to the thermal
> > mass
> > of the house core).
> >
> > Robert
> > www.lesspress.com
> >
> >
> >> I agree with Tim...this is the weirdest off-topic post yet to  
> show on
> >> the cob list.  Come on, this is the COB-LIST, not the "container-
> >> list" or "steel-list" or "strawbale-as-insulation-list"
> >>
> >> You should only post to this list if you want to discuss COB
> >> building!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 25, 2008, at 11:56 PM, Tim Nam wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Do you have access to free containers or something? I mean, why  
> not
> >>> just stick with the strawbale and cob?  Just asking.
> >>>
> >>> I would use the containers for a basement, if at all.
> >>>
> >>>  Tim Kijoo Nam
> >>> Corvallis, OR
> >>> tkn317071 at yahoo.com
> >>> http://timsbloggo.blogspot.com/
> >>> "We are discussing no small matter, but how we ought to live." -
> >>> Socrates
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: Selvoy Fillerup <selvoy at hotmail.com>
> >>> To: coblist at deatech.com
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:12:21 PM
> >>> Subject: [Cob] building with shipping containers, straw bales,
> >>> and cob
> >>>
> >>> All:
> >>> I?d like to discuss the possibility of incorporating recycled
> >>> shipping containers with natural materials (such as straw bales  
> and
> >>> cob) to create a natural/industrial blended home. I prefer the
> >>> organic look and feel of natural materials and would like to use
> >>> containers as a skeletal framework on which to build. Does anyone
> >>> have experience with both methods of construction?
> >>>
> >
> >
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