Cob: RE: RE: RE: Sealing cement roofs

[Brent Flaco Wilson]

Well lets take a guess at where dirt poor people in mexico and guatemala get 
their hands on lead based paint, styrofaom, etc.  Could it be do to the 
influence and domincance of the "first" world.  I have never heard of 
traditional homes in either country using paint, styrofoam, it's only until 
the people have their land base stripped and used for capatilist ventures 
that they have to resort to surviving using the "machines" products, lets be 
real, rich ways of life using native substances is what most 3rd countries 
are known for.  LOOK to the source and you will find we live on the pig!






>From: Ben Harrison <bharrison at crystald.com>
>Reply-To: Ben Harrison <bharrison at crystald.com>
>To: 'Patrick Newberry' <PNewberry at HFHI.org>, coblist at deatech.com
>Subject: Cob: RE: RE: RE: Sealing cement roofs
>Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:51:50 -0800
>
>Yes, I understood that they weren't using it for an inside application. I
>was simlpy suggesting that if they were willing to paint
>their exterior concrete walls with a mixture of gasoline and styrofoam
>(which on it's face anyway sounds pretty nasty) then they
>might also not be aware of the dangers of lead based paints and use those 
>on
>their interiors. I was in no way suggesting that
>"first world" countries are inherently "better" than third world countries.
>There is alot about this country and capitolism that I
>despise and am embarrased by. I do think that most people are aware that
>many "third world" countries don't have the same
>level of education when it comes to these things or the laws are less 
>strict
>when it comes to dealing with toxic substances.
>That's why so many heartless, money grubbing, American corporations set up
>shop in these places right? It's a sad reality
>but a reality none the less. Sorry for the rant.
>
>- Ben
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Patrick Newberry [mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:01 AM
>To: coblist at deatech.com
>Subject: Cob: RE: RE: Sealing cement roofs
>
>
>They were not using it for an inside application, only on the cement roofs
>to seal. I'm belive it would dry reasonable quickly.  Of course it might be
>a bad idea, still investigating, of course there are a lot of things get
>done by  rich educated folks in first world countries  that should not be
>immiated either, just to make a buck :-)
>
>Pat Newberry
>www.gypsyfarm.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ben Harrison [mailto:bharrison at crystald.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:50 PM
>To: Patrick Newberry; coblist at deatech.com
>Subject: RE: RE: Sealing cement roofs
>
>
>
>Not only is it not very natural but it sounds like cancer just waiting to
>happen.
>I'm sure there are plenty of things the uneducated poor do in third world
>countries
>that involve the use of hazardous, cancer causing materials but is that
>something we
>want to immitate? They probably still use lead based paints to cover their
>interior
>walls too. Don't gamble with your health just to save a buck. :)
>
>- Ben
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Patrick Newberry [ mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org
><mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org> ]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:16 AM
>To: coblist at deatech.com
>Subject: Cob: RE: Sealing cement roofs
>
>
>I know this isn't very natural, but I heard about some cement roofs being
>sealed in Guatamala using old styrofoam and gasoline. Mixed to gether I
>guess it melts the styrofoam into some type of a substance that can then be
>painted on to the cement and seal it.
>
>This is currently being used on habitat homes in Guatamala.
>
>Has anyone else heard of this. I'll be putting a ferro cement roof over the
>outer section of my cob house and have been looking into fibers (looking at
>steel and fiberglass) to try to keep it as thin as possible since I am
>building by hand and must carry the cement up to the roof.
>
>Pat
>www.gypsyfarm.com
>


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